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   From: recscuba_google@huntzinger.com   
      
   On 11/7/25 12:02, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:   
   > Rudy Canoza wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:   
   >   
   >>    
   >>   
   >> Most Americans don't want "democratic socialism" any more than   
   >> they want Trump's fascism. They don't think government grocery   
   >> stores are the answer to anything.   
   >   
   > But food banks and food pantries dependent on private donations   
   > are the answer?   
   >   
   >      AI Overview   
   >   
   >      Countries like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, and Finland are   
   >      frequently cited as examples of democratic socialist or social   
   >      democratic systems, which blend capitalism with strong social   
   >      welfare programs, public services, and reduced inequality.   
   >      Other countries with significant social democratic influence   
   >      include Canada, Germany, Portugal, and New Zealand, though   
   >      these vary in how they apply the principles. It is important   
   >      to distinguish these from countries with more authoritarian   
   >      socialist governments, such as China, Cuba, and Vietnam.   
   >   
   > I dunno man, those dem-soc countries seem pretty inviting.   
      
   They are.  I've been to 3 of the 4 Scandanavians (Sweden, Norway,   
   Denmark, and Finland) at least twice (including again just last month)   
   and would be fine living in any of them.  Granted, alcohol tends to be   
   expensive (by design - social ills of alcoholism), but I'm not a heavy   
   drinker, so its not a big deal AFAIC.   
      
   For the next batch mentioned (Canada, Germany, Portugal, New Zealand)   
   I've again been to 3 of the 4 and while some are more 'gritty' than the   
   first batch, I've seen/lived in comparable-to-worse sections in the US,   
   so I'd have no particular qualms with these countries either.   
      
   The last batch is the authoritarian ones which is really where the   
   logical failure is for most Americans: incorrectly conflating socialist   
   principles with authoritarianism, which is a failure to recognize or   
   understand that the form of governance isn't strictly tied.   
      
   -hh   
      
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