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   Message 5,695 of 6,487   
   ALB to Brock McNuggets   
   Re: It's Time to Stigmatize Some People    
   11 Nov 25 16:58:39   
   
   XPost: alt.community.local-money, alt.computer.workshop, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   XPost: comp.os.linux.advocacy, talk.politics.guns   
   From: alb@lupinedb.org   
      
   On 11 Nov 2025 02:08:00 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
      
   > On Nov 10, 2025 at 6:54:44 PM MST, "ALB" wrote   
   > :   
   >   
   >> On 10 Nov 2025 22:34:25 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Nov 10, 2025 at 3:07:40 PM MST, "pothead" wrote   
   >>> <10etnnc$ac3f$1@pothead.dont-email.me>:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 2025-11-10, useapen  wrote:   
   >>>>> There it was this morning, plain as day. It was a screenshot of a woman   
   >>>>> going off about how her food stamps were cut off, the $1,000 per month   
   she   
   >>>>> and her family supposedly get from the government, juxtaposed against her   
   >>>>> being called out by someone else for hair extensions, expensive trips to   
   >>>>> the nail salon, and tattoos. In short, she wastes money on unnecessary   
   >>>>> things and then demands money from the government to support herself.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> She's squandering money on luxuries while relying on the taxpayers to   
   fund   
   >>>>> her groceries for anywhere between four and seven people in her   
   household.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And worse, there's no sense of shame among many of these people. There's   
   >>>>> no concept that maybe they should keep their heads down and just be   
   >>>>> thankful for what they've gotten.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Instead, many tried to brag about what all they'd do if they didn't get   
   >>>>> SNAP money. They threatened violence and got away with it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> There used to be a stigma for being a welfare recipient, and while I get   
   >>>>> that it's not always fair to stigmatize people for temporary setbacks,   
   too   
   >>>>> many people are still making a lifestyle based on government largesse.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> These people are too comfortable doing so and are too demanding to be   
   >>>>> permitted to go about their lives unchallenged.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> People who refuse to work, who maintain large households and exist off of   
   >>>>> taxpayer money, shouldn't be accepted. They shouldn't be tolerated. They   
   >>>>> should be demeaned and mocked as the leeches they are.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> When I was younger, this happened. It was considered mean to do, but it   
   at   
   >>>>> least meant those who got welfare in some form at least kept quiet about   
   >>>>> it. Many were made to feel a sense of shame about it, which often led   
   them   
   >>>>> to take steps to get off of it and to pay their own way. Others were too   
   >>>>> damn lazy to care, though, so reforms had to be made by implementing work   
   >>>>> requirements.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But those requirements are so minor that recipients are getting off easy.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> For those of you who may not remember, back during the reform debate,   
   some   
   >>>>> literally thought they were entitled to welfare money as their due. That   
   >>>>> hasn't changed, and that's why these people need to be stigmatized. They   
   >>>>> need to be made to feel bad about the position they have put themselves   
   >>>>> in.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And it's not just the welfare queens, either.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> There are a lot of people who are in positions due to their own decisions   
   >>>>> who somehow think they deserve special treatment. You majored in Lesbian   
   >>>>> Fruit Bat Studies in college, and you can't get a job? No wonder you   
   >>>>> can't. You've proven you're too irresponsible to be trusted with your own   
   >>>>> oxygen supply, much less anything that requires the least bit of   
   >>>>> responsibility beyond putting on clothes to cover your reproductive   
   parts.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You see racism everywhere around you, and that's why you're an a**? Maybe   
   >>>>> what you chalk up to racism is because you're an insufferable piece of   
   >>>>> filth, and people don't care about your ethnicity, just that you're a   
   >>>>> horrible human being.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Communist? Enough said, mockery and laughter to follow.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Too many people get away with being terrible in various ways. We need to   
   >>>>> stigmatize these people for exactly what they are: Con artists,   
   deadbeats,   
   >>>>> and pathetic excuses for human beings barely qualified to turn oxygen   
   into   
   >>>>> carbon dioxide.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Sure, there's a line there. Each of ours might be a little different, but   
   >>>>> there's a big difference between a disabled veteran who can't work versus   
   >>>>> someone really upset that our tax dollars won't be available to fund   
   their   
   >>>>> eyebrow waxing. Those who cross that line need to be the subject of   
   scorn,   
   >>>>> if for no other reason than to make it loudly apparent that it's   
   >>>>> unacceptable to do that when you can work.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Do enough of that, shame people into cleaning up their lives on their   
   own,   
   >>>>> without expecting someone to do it for them, and we really will make   
   >>>>> America great again.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> https://townhall.com/columnists/tomknighton/2025/11/07/its-time-to-   
   >>>>> stigmatize-some-people-again-n2666120   
   >>>   
   >>> This rant spreads old welfare myths. SNAP doesn’t pay $1,000 a month to   
   >>> individuals, can’t be spent on tattoos or nails, and most recipients   
   already   
   >>> work. Shaming poor families doesn’t make them more self-sufficient —   
   it just   
   >>> fuels resentment and misinformation. Poverty isn’t a moral failure, and   
   >>> mocking people who need help says more about the accuser than about those   
   >>> struggling to eat.   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> This type of scam is quite prevelant and it crosses all ethnic   
   backgrounds.   
   >>>> These days scamming the system, which is very easy to do if you know how,   
   is   
   >>>> worn as a badge of honor.   
   >>>> NOT by the people who really need assistance but by the leeches and   
   grifters   
   >>>> who are able to work but refuse to or who collect government checks and   
   work   
   >>>> tax   
   >>>> free off the books.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And it would surprise you how many people with fancy homes, high end cars,   
   >>>> extravegant   
   >>>> vacations are indeed scamming  the system.   
   >>>> Why?   
   >>>> Because it is so darn easy and in the past the government did not do   
   anything   
   >>>> but the most   
   >>>> basic checks for eligibility.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That has all changed with the trump administration and the amount of   
   fraud and   
   >>>> waste in   
   >>>> the government assistance programs is staggering. And these are funds that   
   >>>> could be allocated to   
   >>>> people who really need some assistance for whatever reason.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Of course if you point this out you will be labeled a bigot, racist and so   
   >>>> forth.   
   >>>> It's the classic tactic of the demonrats.   
   >>>> The old "do you want people to starve?" shtick.   
   >>>> The problem the demonrats have is that the voters are not falling for this   
   >>>> routine anymore and hence   
   >>>> the government shutdown where the demonrats attempted to pull the bigot,   
   >>>> republicans want you to starve   
      
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