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   From: invalide@invalid.invalid   
      
   Anonymous wrote:   
   > Gronk wrote:   
   >> Attila wrote:   
   >>> On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 23:38:16 -0600, Gronk   
   >>>  in alt.atheism with message-id   
   >>>> nickname unavailable wrote:   
   >>>>> On 10/19/2025 9:43 PM, Attila wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 01:55:41 +0000, Mitchell Holman   
   >>>>>>> Attila  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>> On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 11:49:37 -0700, "chine.bleu"   
   >>>>>>>>> Governor Swill wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 15:27:26 -0400, Attila    
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 Oct 2025 11:35:49 -0700, "chine.bleu"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Governor Swill wrote:Nozomu Mochitsuki   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>>     Even illegals cannot be arrested unless   
   >>>>>>> the police a reasonable suspicion they are   
   >>>>>>> illegal.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> True.  I have no idea what intelligence ICE has to ID   
   >>>>>> illegals.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> None — they have *no* intelligence to identify undocumented   
   >>>>> immigrants.   
   >>>>> They're just snatching brown-skinned people and people who speak with   
   >>>>> Spanish accents off the streets. It's pure racial profiling.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> He won't get it. Or, he'll deny it and still say   
   >>>> he has no clue.   
   >>>   
   >>> I get exactly what is going on.   
   >>>   
   >>> Do you think someone who otherwise has no criminal   
   >>> background should be deported for being here illegally?   
   >>   
   >> No. They're working and paying taxes.   
   >   
   > No they aren't:   
   >   
   > https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker   
      
   Opinion piece without much in the way of references...   
      
      
   https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/   
      
   * Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and   
   local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the   
   federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state   
   and local governments.   
      
   * Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889   
   per person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented   
   immigrants who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9   
   billion in additional tax revenue.   
      
   * More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants   
   go toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers   
   are barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in   
   Social Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion   
   in unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.   
      
   * At the state and local levels, slightly less than half (46 percent, or   
   $15.1 billion) of the tax payments made by undocumented immigrants are   
   through sales and excise taxes levied on their purchases. Most other   
   payments are made through property taxes, such as those levied on   
   homeowners and renters (31 percent, or $10.4 billion), or through   
   personal and business income taxes (21 percent, or $7.0 billion).   
      
   * Six states raised more than $1 billion each in tax revenue from   
   undocumented immigrants living within their borders. Those states are   
   California ($8.5 billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New York ($3.1   
   billion), Florida ($1.8 billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion), and New   
   Jersey ($1.3 billion).   
      
   * In a large majority of states (40), undocumented immigrants pay higher   
   state and local tax rates than the top 1 percent of households living   
   within their borders.   
      
   * Income tax payments by undocumented immigrants are affected by laws   
   that require them to pay more than otherwise similarly situated U.S.   
   citizens. Undocumented immigrants are often barred from receiving   
   meaningful tax credits and sometimes do not claim refunds they are owed   
   due to lack of awareness, concern about their immigration status, or   
   insufficient access to tax preparation assistance.   
      
   * Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants   
   would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would   
   rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase. Under a   
   scenario where work authorization is provided to all current   
   undocumented immigrants, their tax contributions would rise by $40.2   
   billion per year to $136.9 billion. Most of the new revenue raised in   
   this scenario ($33.1 billion) would flow to the federal government while   
   the remainder ($7.1 billion) would flow to states and localities.   
      
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