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   From: f00@0f0.00f   
      
   Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   > On 11/21/2025 10:15 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>> On 11/21/2025 9:46 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/21/2025 8:46 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 8:31 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Clave wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> "Agree to disagree" is reserved for things like "Pink   
   >>>>>>>>> Floyd is better than Led Zeppelin." *Not* racism,   
   >>>>>>>>> homophobia, sexism. *Not* basic human decency. *Not*   
   >>>>>>>>> human rights.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> *Not* the right to be treated equally regardless of   
   >>>>>>>>> race, religion, color, creed or sexual orientation.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> We do not have a difference of opinion on those. We have   
   >>>>>>>>> a difference in morality. Those who do not oppose the   
   >>>>>>>>> "isms" and who do not support basic human decency and   
   >>>>>>>>> human rights have no morality.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> morality is a spectrum.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> No, you stupid shit-4-braincell, it is not. Morality is   
   >>>>>>> binary. Something is moral within a society or it isn't.   
   >>>>>>> There are no "degrees" of morality.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> so for the trolley problem, which is the moral choice?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Moral philosophers can't agree on which is the moral choice,   
   >>>>> but they do agree that if there is one, that one is fully   
   >>>>> moral, not moral "to some degree."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You're an idiot.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> oohhhh and how would one find out if there is one?   
   >>>   
   >>> It doesn't matter "how" — if there is one, that is the moral   
   >>> choice/option and the other is immoral.   
   >>>   
   >>> You're still an idiot.   
   >>   
   >> so you dont know if there is a moral choice   
   >   
   > I don't know, and neither do you, idiot. But if there is a way to   
   > decide, the choice that is held to be the moral one is just   
   > moral, period. It is not "more moral" than the other. Faced with   
   > the available options in the thought experiment, one is moral and   
   > the other is not. There is no "degree" to morality. There is   
   > right and wrong, or right and not right. This is settled.   
   >   
   > You'll always be an idiot.   
      
   nothing is settled because you cannot decide what to do. once you   
   do decide, let me know.   
      
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