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   From: f00@0f0.00f   
      
   Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   > On 11/21/2025 10:51 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>> On 11/21/2025 10:15 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/21/2025 9:46 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 8:46 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 8:31 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>> Clave wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> "Agree to disagree" is reserved for things like "Pink   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Floyd is better than Led Zeppelin." *Not* racism,   
   >>>>>>>>>>> homophobia, sexism. *Not* basic human decency. *Not*   
   >>>>>>>>>>> human rights.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> *Not* the right to be treated equally regardless of   
   >>>>>>>>>>> race, religion, color, creed or sexual orientation.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> We do not have a difference of opinion on those. We   
   >>>>>>>>>>> have a difference in morality. Those who do not oppose   
   >>>>>>>>>>> the "isms" and who do not support basic human decency   
   >>>>>>>>>>> and human rights have no morality.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> morality is a spectrum.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> No, you stupid shit-4-braincell, it is not. Morality is   
   >>>>>>>>> binary. Something is moral within a society or it isn't.   
   >>>>>>>>> There are no "degrees" of morality.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> so for the trolley problem, which is the moral choice?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Moral philosophers can't agree on which is the moral   
   >>>>>>> choice, but they do agree that if there is one, that one   
   >>>>>>> is fully moral, not moral "to some degree."   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You're an idiot.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> oohhhh and how would one find out if there is one?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It doesn't matter "how" — if there is one, that is the moral   
   >>>>> choice/option and the other is immoral.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You're still an idiot.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> so you dont know if there is a moral choice   
   >>>   
   >>> I don't know, and neither do you, idiot. But if there is a way   
   >>> to decide, the choice that is held to be the moral one is just   
   >>> moral, period. It is not "more moral" than the other. Faced   
   >>> with the available options in the thought experiment, one is   
   >>> moral and the other is not. There is no "degree" to morality.   
   >>> There is right and wrong, or right and not right. This is   
   >>> settled.   
   >>>   
   >>> You'll always be an idiot.   
   >>   
   >> nothing is settled   
   >   
   > Yes, the binary nature of morality is settled.   
   >   
   >> because you cannot decide what to do.   
   >   
   > Irrelevant.   
      
   no decision, no judgement.   
      
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