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   From: notgenx32@yahoo.com   
      
   On 11/21/2025 12:31 PM, jojo wrote:   
   > Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >> On 11/21/2025 12:09 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/21/2025 11:08 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 11/21/2025 10:51 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 10:15 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 9:46 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 8:46 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 8:31 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clave wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Agree to disagree" is reserved for things like "Pink Floyd is   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better than Led Zeppelin." *Not* racism, homophobia, sexism.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Not* basic human decency. *Not* human rights.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Not* the right to be treated equally regardless of race,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> religion, color, creed or sexual orientation.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We do not have a difference of opinion on those. We have a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference in morality. Those who do not oppose the "isms" and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who do not support basic human decency and human rights have   
   no   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morality.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morality is a spectrum.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you stupid shit-4-braincell, it is not. Morality is binary.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something is moral within a society or it isn't. There are no   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "degrees" of morality.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> so for the trolley problem, which is the moral choice?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Moral philosophers can't agree on which is the moral choice, but   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> they do agree that if there is one, that one is fully moral, not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> moral "to some degree."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> You're an idiot.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> oohhhh and how would one find out if there is one?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter "how" — if there is one, that is the moral   
   choice/   
   >>>>>>>>>> option and the other is immoral.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You're still an idiot.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> so you dont know if there is a moral choice   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I don't know, and neither do you, idiot. But if there is a way to   
   >>>>>>>> decide, the choice that is held to be the moral one is just moral,   
   >>>>>>>> period. It is not "more moral" than the other. Faced with the   
   available   
   >>>>>>>> options in the thought experiment, one is moral and the other is not.   
   >>>>>>>> There is no "degree" to morality. There is right and wrong, or right   
   and   
   >>>>>>>> not right. This is settled.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You'll always be an idiot.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> nothing is settled   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Yes, the binary nature of morality is settled.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> because you cannot decide what to do.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Irrelevant.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> no decision, no judgement.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    
   >>>   
   >>> i would advise taking a nap, provided you can decide.   
   >>   
   >> I would advise you to swallow lye.   
   >   
   > my team of moral philosophers   
      
   No such team, you dull plodding troll.   
      
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