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   XPost: alt.politics.democrats.d, talk.politics.guns   
   From: f00@0f0.00f   
      
   Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   > On 11/21/2025 12:31 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>> On 11/21/2025 12:09 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/21/2025 11:08 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 10:51 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 10:15 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 9:46 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 8:46 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 8:31 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clave wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Agree to disagree" is reserved for things like   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Pink Floyd is better than Led Zeppelin." *Not*   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> racism, homophobia, sexism. *Not* basic human   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decency. *Not* human rights.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Not* the right to be treated equally regardless   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of race, religion, color, creed or sexual   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orientation.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We do not have a difference of opinion on those.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have a difference in morality. Those who do   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not oppose the "isms" and who do not support   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basic human decency and human rights have no   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morality.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morality is a spectrum.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you stupid shit-4-braincell, it is not.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morality is binary. Something is moral within a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> society or it isn't. There are no "degrees" of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morality.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> so for the trolley problem, which is the moral choice?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Moral philosophers can't agree on which is the moral   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> choice, but they do agree that if there is one, that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> one is fully moral, not moral "to some degree."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> You're an idiot.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> oohhhh and how would one find out if there is one?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter "how" — if there is one, that is the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> moral choice/ option and the other is immoral.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You're still an idiot.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> so you dont know if there is a moral choice   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> I don't know, and neither do you, idiot. But if there is   
   >>>>>>>>> a way to decide, the choice that is held to be the moral   
   >>>>>>>>> one is just moral, period. It is not "more moral" than   
   >>>>>>>>> the other. Faced with the available options in the   
   >>>>>>>>> thought experiment, one is moral and the other is not.   
   >>>>>>>>> There is no "degree" to morality. There is right and   
   >>>>>>>>> wrong, or right and not right. This is settled.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> You'll always be an idiot.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> nothing is settled   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Yes, the binary nature of morality is settled.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> because you cannot decide what to do.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Irrelevant.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> no decision, no judgement.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>    
   >>>>   
   >>>> i would advise taking a nap, provided you can decide.   
   >>>   
   >>> I would advise you to swallow lye.   
   >>   
   >> my team of moral philosophers   
   >   
   > No such team, you dull plodding troll.   
      
   any other advise for my team to consider?   
      
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