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   From: notgenx32@yahoo.com   
      
   On 11/21/2025 12:59 PM, jojo wrote:   
   > Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >> On 11/21/2025 12:31 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/21/2025 12:09 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 11/21/2025 11:08 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 10:51 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 10:15 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 9:46 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 8:46 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 8:31 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clave wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Agree to disagree" is reserved for things like "Pink Floyd   
   is   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better than Led Zeppelin." *Not* racism, homophobia, sexism.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Not* basic human decency. *Not* human rights.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Not* the right to be treated equally regardless of race,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> religion, color, creed or sexual orientation.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We do not have a difference of opinion on those. We have a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference in morality. Those who do not oppose the "isms"   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who do not support basic human decency and human rights have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no morality.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morality is a spectrum.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you stupid shit-4-braincell, it is not. Morality is   
   binary.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something is moral within a society or it isn't. There are no   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "degrees" of morality.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so for the trolley problem, which is the moral choice?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moral philosophers can't agree on which is the moral choice, but   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they do agree that if there is one, that one is fully moral, not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> moral "to some degree."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're an idiot.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> oohhhh and how would one find out if there is one?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter "how" — if there is one, that is the moral   
   choice/   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> option and the other is immoral.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> You're still an idiot.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> so you dont know if there is a moral choice   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> I don't know, and neither do you, idiot. But if there is a way to   
   >>>>>>>>>> decide, the choice that is held to be the moral one is just moral,   
   >>>>>>>>>> period. It is not "more moral" than the other. Faced with the   
   >>>>>>>>>> available options in the thought experiment, one is moral and the   
   >>>>>>>>>> other is not. There is no "degree" to morality. There is right and   
   >>>>>>>>>> wrong, or right and not right. This is settled.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> You'll always be an idiot.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> nothing is settled   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yes, the binary nature of morality is settled.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> because you cannot decide what to do.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Irrelevant.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> no decision, no judgement.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>    
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> i would advise taking a nap, provided you can decide.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I would advise you to swallow lye.   
   >>>   
   >>> my team of moral philosophers   
   >>   
   >> No such team, you dull plodding troll.   
   >   
   > any other advise [sic] for my team to consider?   
      
   You have no team. "Advise" is not a noun.   
      
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