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   From: f00@0f0.00f   
      
   Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   > On 11/21/2025 12:23 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>> On 11/21/2025 12:07 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/21/2025 11:19 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 10:57 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Clave wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> If a storm breaks off a tree limb, and the limb hits the   
   >>>>>>>>> corner of your roof and takes off some of the eave and   
   >>>>>>>>> gutter, that's bad. If the limb crashes entirely through   
   >>>>>>>>> your roof and lands in the living room, that's worse.   
   >>>>>>>>> Goodness and badness – as practical consequences, not   
   >>>>>>>>> morality — occur along a spectrum. If you get an   
   >>>>>>>>> estimate for an automotive repair of $500, and it only   
   >>>>>>>>> ends up costing you $400, that's good. If it only ends   
   >>>>>>>>> up costing you $200, that's better, i.e. "more good."   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Morality is not like that. If you steal one tool (rake,   
   >>>>>>>>> shovel) from the side of your neighbor's house, that's   
   >>>>>>>>> wrong. If you steal all the tools, that's wrong, and it   
   >>>>>>>>> is not "more wrong" than stealing only one. Stealing all   
   >>>>>>>>> of them is a worse *practical* outcome for the neighbor,   
   >>>>>>>>> but either action is just wrong.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> so you're saying mortality is independent of goodness or   
   >>>>>>>> badness?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I'm not saying anything about mortality, idiot.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> You attempted to equivocate on goodness/badness. I stopped   
   >>>>>>> you.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> so it is dependent on goodness and badness?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> You're attempting to equivocate again. It won't work again.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> i see, too bad.. or good??   
   >>>   
   >>> You don't see that your equivocation game collapsed.   
   >>   
   >> so was that a good thing or a bad thing?   
   >   
   > It's a very good (high quality) thing.   
      
   that was nice of you to decide.   
      
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