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   From: f00@0f0.00f   
      
   Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   > On 11/21/2025 12:59 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>> On 11/21/2025 12:31 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/21/2025 12:09 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 11:08 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 10:51 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 10:15 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 9:46 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 8:46 AM, jojo, always an idiot, spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry Buchanan wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/2025 8:31 AM, jojo, always an idiot,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spewed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clave wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Agree to disagree" is reserved for things   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like "Pink Floyd is better than Led Zeppelin."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Not* racism, homophobia, sexism. *Not* basic   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> human decency. *Not* human rights.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Not* the right to be treated equally   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regardless of race, religion, color, creed or   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sexual orientation.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We do not have a difference of opinion on   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those. We have a difference in morality. Those   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who do not oppose the "isms" and who do not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support basic human decency and human rights   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no morality.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morality is a spectrum.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, you stupid shit-4-braincell, it is not.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morality is binary. Something is moral within a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> society or it isn't. There are no "degrees" of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> morality.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so for the trolley problem, which is the moral   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moral philosophers can't agree on which is the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moral choice, but they do agree that if there is   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one, that one is fully moral, not moral "to some   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degree."   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're an idiot.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> oohhhh and how would one find out if there is one?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter "how" — if there is one, that is   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> the moral choice/ option and the other is immoral.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> You're still an idiot.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> so you dont know if there is a moral choice   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I don't know, and neither do you, idiot. But if there   
   >>>>>>>>>>> is a way to decide, the choice that is held to be the   
   >>>>>>>>>>> moral one is just moral, period. It is not "more   
   >>>>>>>>>>> moral" than the other. Faced with the available   
   >>>>>>>>>>> options in the thought experiment, one is moral and   
   >>>>>>>>>>> the other is not. There is no "degree" to morality.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> There is right and wrong, or right and not right. This   
   >>>>>>>>>>> is settled.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> You'll always be an idiot.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> nothing is settled   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Yes, the binary nature of morality is settled.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> because you cannot decide what to do.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Irrelevant.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> no decision, no judgement.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> i would advise taking a nap, provided you can decide.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I would advise you to swallow lye.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> my team of moral philosophers   
   >>>   
   >>> No such team, you dull plodding troll.   
   >>   
   >> any other advise [sic] for my team to consider?   
   >   
   > You have no team. "Advise" is not a noun.   
      
   can i get some advise on my grammar?   
      
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