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   Collectivists_Always_Fail to All   
   Re: Why Trump is deploying the national    
   22 Nov 25 14:59:14   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   >>>>>>>>> "They are contributing to a system they   
   >>>>>>>>> will not benefit from. Who is benefiting?   
   >>>>>>>>> It's American citizens."   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> For instance, the surge of immigrants   
   >>>>>>>>> in recent years is expected to boost   
   >>>>>>>>> Social Security's revenues by $348   
   >>>>>>>>> billion between 2024 and 2034,   
   >>>>>>>>> according to a Congressional Budget   
   >>>>>>>>> Office analysis released last year.   
   >>>>>>>>> Over the same period, these folks   
   >>>>>>>>> will collect only about $1 billion,   
   >>>>>>>>> the CBO projected.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/01/politics/undocumented-   
   >immigrant   
   >>>>>>>>> s- social-security   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> CNN???  Really?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Yes. Unless you have other figures to post?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Knowing that I cannot depend on CNN offering honest and accurate   
   >>>>>> information does not require anything beyond an understanding of   
   >>>>>> what CNN is.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> On the other hand, I've no issue with you believing whatever you   
   >>>>>> need to believe about CNN and what they tell you.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Still can't post any figures, eh?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Maybe this will help you:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   Proof deleted by "Collectivism", restored.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>* Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and   
   >>>local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to   
   >the   
   >>>federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state   
   >>>and local governments.   
   >>>   
   >>>* Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of   
   >$8,889   
   >>>per person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented   
   >>>immigrants who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9   
   >>>billion in additional tax revenue.   
   >>>   
   >>>* More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants   
   >>>go toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these   
   >workers   
   >>>are barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion   
   >in   
   >>>Social Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion   
   >>>in unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.   
   >>>   
   >>>* At the state and local levels, slightly less than half (46 percent,   
   >or   
   >>>$15.1 billion) of the tax payments made by undocumented immigrants are   
   >>>through sales and excise taxes levied on their purchases. Most other   
   >>>payments are made through property taxes, such as those levied on   
   >>>homeowners and renters (31 percent, or $10.4 billion), or through   
   >>>personal and business income taxes (21 percent, or $7.0 billion).   
   >>>   
   >>>* Six states raised more than $1 billion each in tax revenue from   
   >>>undocumented immigrants living within their borders. Those states are   
   >>>California ($8.5 billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New York ($3.1   
   >>>billion), Florida ($1.8 billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion), and New   
   >>>Jersey ($1.3 billion).   
   >>>   
   >>>* In a large majority of states (40), undocumented immigrants pay   
   >higher   
   >>>state and local tax rates than the top 1 percent of households living   
   >>>within their borders.   
   >>>   
   >>>* Income tax payments by undocumented immigrants are affected by laws   
   >>>that require them to pay more than otherwise similarly situated U.S.   
   >>>citizens. Undocumented immigrants are often barred from receiving   
   >>>meaningful tax credits and sometimes do not claim refunds they are owed   
   >>>due to lack of awareness, concern about their immigration status, or   
   >>>insufficient access to tax preparation assistance.   
   >>>   
   >>>* Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants   
   >>>would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would   
   >>>rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase. Under a   
   >>>scenario where work authorization is provided to all current   
   >>>undocumented immigrants, their tax contributions would rise by $40.2   
   >>>billion per year to $136.9 billion. Most of the new revenue raised in   
   >>>this scenario ($33.1 billion) would flow to the federal government   
   >while   
   >>>the remainder ($7.1 billion) would flow to states and localities.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>  From a group that openly admits their bias......   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   And your "unbiased" proof to the   
   >>>contrary is......?   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >> Omly a moron like Hollowhead would post something from a self   
   >> described biased organization and call it proof.   
   >   
   >   
   >  Read your headers, I didn't post it.   
      
   You reposted it snd called it proof, you befuddled old coot.   
      
   >  Gads, you really ARE new at this, aren't you..........   
      
   --   
      
      
   "Collectivism, any of several types of social organization in which   
   the individual is seen as being subordinate to a social collectivity   
    such as a state, a nation, a race, or a social class. Collectivism   
   may be contrasted with individualism (q.v.), in which the rights and   
    interests of the individual are emphasized.   
   https://www.britannica.com/topic/collectivism   
      
   A collectivist is someone who is content to give up his rights and   
   interests and be subordinant to the group's leader, Such people are   
   commonly referred to as"sheeple."   
      
   Collectivism is for losers   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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