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   Mitchell Holman to MeanDog@stonewall.Dash   
   Re: Why Trump is deploying the national    
   23 Nov 25 02:47:48   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   >>>>>>>>>> will not benefit from. Who is benefiting?   
   >>>>>>>>>> It's American citizens."   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> For instance, the surge of immigrants   
   >>>>>>>>>> in recent years is expected to boost   
   >>>>>>>>>> Social Security's revenues by $348   
   >>>>>>>>>> billion between 2024 and 2034,   
   >>>>>>>>>> according to a Congressional Budget   
   >>>>>>>>>> Office analysis released last year.   
   >>>>>>>>>> Over the same period, these folks   
   >>>>>>>>>> will collect only about $1 billion,   
   >>>>>>>>>> the CBO projected.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/01/politics/undocumented-   
   >>immigrant   
   >>>>>>>>>> s- social-security   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> CNN???  Really?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yes. Unless you have other figures to post?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Knowing that I cannot depend on CNN offering honest and accurate   
   >>>>>>> information does not require anything beyond an understanding of   
   >>>>>>> what CNN is.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On the other hand, I've no issue with you believing whatever you   
   >>>>>>> need to believe about CNN and what they tell you.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Still can't post any figures, eh?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Maybe this will help you:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   Proof deleted by "Collectivism", restored.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>* Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and   
   >>>>local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to   
   >>the   
   >>>>federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to   
   >>>>state and local governments.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>* Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of   
   >>$8,889   
   >>>>per person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented   
   >>>>immigrants who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9   
   >>>>billion in additional tax revenue.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>* More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented   
   >>>>immigrants go toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs   
   >>>>that these   
   >>workers   
   >>>>are barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7   
   >>>>billion   
   >>in   
   >>>>Social Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8   
   >>>>billion in unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>* At the state and local levels, slightly less than half (46   
   >>>>percent,   
   >>or   
   >>>>$15.1 billion) of the tax payments made by undocumented immigrants   
   >>>>are through sales and excise taxes levied on their purchases. Most   
   >>>>other payments are made through property taxes, such as those levied   
   >>>>on homeowners and renters (31 percent, or $10.4 billion), or through   
   >>>>personal and business income taxes (21 percent, or $7.0 billion).   
   >>>>   
   >>>>* Six states raised more than $1 billion each in tax revenue from   
   >>>>undocumented immigrants living within their borders. Those states   
   >>>>are California ($8.5 billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New York ($3.1   
   >>>>billion), Florida ($1.8 billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion), and New   
   >>>>Jersey ($1.3 billion).   
   >>>>   
   >>>>* In a large majority of states (40), undocumented immigrants pay   
   >>higher   
   >>>>state and local tax rates than the top 1 percent of households   
   >>>>living within their borders.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>* Income tax payments by undocumented immigrants are affected by   
   >>>>laws that require them to pay more than otherwise similarly situated   
   >>>>U.S. citizens. Undocumented immigrants are often barred from   
   >>>>receiving meaningful tax credits and sometimes do not claim refunds   
   >>>>they are owed due to lack of awareness, concern about their   
   >>>>immigration status, or insufficient access to tax preparation   
   >>>>assistance.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>* Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants   
   >>>>would increase their tax contributions both because their wages   
   >>>>would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase.   
   >>>>Under a scenario where work authorization is provided to all current   
   >>>>undocumented immigrants, their tax contributions would rise by $40.2   
   >>>>billion per year to $136.9 billion. Most of the new revenue raised   
   >>>>in this scenario ($33.1 billion) would flow to the federal   
   >>>>government   
   >>while   
   >>>>the remainder ($7.1 billion) would flow to states and localities.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>  From a group that openly admits their bias......   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   And your "unbiased" proof to the   
   >>>>contrary is......?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>> Omly a moron like Hollowhead would post something from a self   
   >>> described biased organization and call it proof.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>  Read your headers, I didn't post it.   
   >   
   > You reposted it snd called it proof, you befuddled old coot.   
   >   
      
      
       Huh?   
      
       YOU replied to it, then I   
   replied to your reply.   
      
       Here is the thread history   
   from above:   
      
      
      
   >   
   >>Collectivists_Always_Fail  wrote in   
   >>news:5tk3ikpdogm29poppmj419joamih2anmkn@4ax.com:   
   >>   
   >>> On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 15:01:42 +0000, Mitchell Holman   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>Collectivists_Always_Fail  wrote in   
   >>>>news:hsp2ik1se940tp1dvsfet44digc8468bdq@4ax.com:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 23:31:04 -0700, Gronk   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
      
      
      
   Gronk posted the article, then you replied him,   
   then I replied to you. And a reply to a post is   
   not a repost.   
      
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   take some time off and learn it.   
      
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