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|    Re: Is it natural to be scared?    |
|    11 Jan 15 10:56:20    |
      From: anna.gonzales.wpg@gmail.com              On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 1:31:40 AM UTC-6, mker...@gmail.com wrote:       > I just stumbled upon here. I've been in and out of suicidality for a long       time. I know, logically speaking, I won't improve - in part because I've set       it up that way, sabotaged myself with a defeatist attitude and refusal to try.       I'm just not a good        person, I'm sick of having a personality disorder, I'm sick of treatments not       working. I've tried DBT. It helped.... but then it stopped helping because I       don't care enough to improve myself. I know most of my friends will survive       without me. There's one        who's also suicidal but he's still trying. I don't think he'd want to make a       pact with me. He's still convinced I can get better. And I could, maybe, I       just don't want to, because I always get worse and I've set it up so that       everything goes to shit when        just one little thing goes wrong. I guess. It's hard to explain. I guess I       could say I'm giving natural selection a hand.        >        > But I'm fucking terrified. Will it hurt? What if I try the OD and drown       method and I wake up at the bottom of the river? What if hell is real and I       end up there, and it's something even worse than what I could imagine because       it can bend the nature of        reality itself (I'm not even religious!)? What if I really don't want to die       and just want attention? What if I back out? What if it's too late for me to       change my mind? What if I live? And beyond all the what ifs the concept of       ending your own life in        and of itself is scary to me because of how taboo it is. I've thought about       having a partner, but the only one I'd want to be with is still trying to       live. And I really hope he does, because he could make this world a better       place. I just can't. And if        he decides not to, I'd be too selfish to not make a pact with him if he were       willing, and honestly I'm surprised he still wants to be friends with me as       I've given him a lot of grief... Anyway.        >        > I do have a method, though. Well, a few I'm debating between. Gunshot wound       to the head, lying on the train tracks, and the third one, which is my most       well-thought out. I'd drive off somewhere where hopefully no one would find me       for awhile. I'd have        a mini grill or pan or something to set my charcoal on (not sure what I'd       use), burn that briefly, then set it in the car. Overdose on pills and alcohol       (whatever I can get, honestly, but probably vodka because it gets me really       drunk). If I do this        before the weather warms up, we can add hypothermia to the mix, I'll pour some       ice water on myself or something, hopefully get knocked out by the drugs, and       either die of CO poisoning or hypothermia, whichever comes first. Probably       there's a million        things wrong with it, but it's the same painless-and-combining-methods idea as       helium bag while wearing weights - just without that image of waking up at the       bottom of the river. Of course, I still keep thinking, what if something goes       wrong, what if        what if. Which makes me wonder whether a gun wouldn't be a better idea after       all.        >        > I don't know. I feel like it's stupid to be scared and that being scared       makes it so I don't "count" as suicidal.                     Yes, it is natural to be scared of death. But reading this, it seems that you       haven't fully come in terms with your departure. In that case, you are not       emotionally ready to do the deed. If there is even a 1% hint of doubt, then       DON"T DO IT because you        can't undo it. To answer your question, every method has some degree of       pain. Some last longer than others. But the biggest pain will be the ones that       your love ones will have to face after you leave, everyone contemplating       suicide has understand this.               --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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