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   60 Minutes investigates the death of Jef   
   06 Jan 20 04:33:44   
   
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   And Baden said, at this point, he doesn't have all the information needed to   
   make a final conclusion. The Justice Department told the family, they say,   
   that it won't release the video pertaining to the case and additional   
   forensic testing because of the ongoing criminal case against the two guards   
   on duty the night of Epstein's death.   
      
   The charges have also silenced the guards themselves. Michael Thomas's   
   attorney Montell Figgins says Thomas still hasn't spoken to investigators or   
   revealed how he, alone, found Epstein's body, a key piece of information in   
   any death investigation.   
      
   One member of the Justice Department who has gone on record about the case is   
   Attorney General William Barr. He told reporters in November he personally   
   reviewed surveillance video that showed nobody entered the area where Epstein   
   was held. Sources say he may be talking about surveillance video above the   
   guard area or at the entrance to the Special Housing Unit. But this remains   
   to be seen as the Department of Justice would not comment to 60 Minutes about   
   which cameras were working that night.   
      
   And then there are Epstein's victims, who never got their day in court to   
   face Epstein. Many are now angry that the investigation into his death has   
   left so many questions still unanswered.   
      
   Below is the full transcript of the 60 Minutes report, "Inside Jeffrey   
   Epstein's Cell.":   
      
   Convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein has been accused of sexually   
   assaulting countless teenage girls. Last July, the wealthy financier was   
   arrested and many of his victims were looking forward to finally facing him   
   in court. But weeks after his arrest, Epstein was found dead in his jail   
   cell. The medical examiner concluded that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.   
      
   Since then, conspiracy theories have flourished. Epstein was connected to a   
   long list of rich and powerful people. Some suspect he was killed because of   
   what he knew or what he threatened to tell.   
      
   How did one of the most high profile inmates in the country end up dead in a   
   federal jail? After a five-month investigation, 60 Minutes has obtained   
   photos, some of them graphic autopsy photos, and evidence from inside Jeffrey   
   Epstein's cell.   
      
   This is the cell where Jeffrey Epstein was found on Saturday morning, August   
   10, 2019. There are dozens of photos taken by the medical examiner's office   
   that day. On the floor, a mattress and piles of sheets. Several nooses that   
   appear to be fashioned from the orange bed linens are laid out. His medicines   
   photographed but no body.   
      
   Sharyn Alfonsi: Is there a photograph of when he was found dead in the cell?   
      
   Dr. Michael Baden: No. There— there's no photograph taken of Mr. Epstein in   
   the cell.   
      
   Dr. Michael Baden observed the four-hour autopsy for Jeffrey Epstein's   
   brother, Mark. Baden, a renowned forensic pathologist who's taken   
   controversial positions over his decades-long career, is investigating   
   Epstein's death for his client.   
      
   Sharyn Alfonsi: Do you think there was foul play here?   
      
   Dr. Michael Baden: The forensic evidence released so far, including autopsy,   
   point much more to murder and strangulation than the suicide and suicidal   
   hanging. I hesitate to make a final opinion, until all the evidence is in.   
      
   Sharyn Alfonsi: People will say, "Well, you're being paid by Mark Epstein. So   
   of course you're gonna say that something suspicious is going on."   
      
   Dr. Michael Baden: That's a reasonable thing for some people to think. But   
   our job is to find what the truth is. Just to find out whether it's a   
   homicide or a suicide. Uh, we're, still haven't gotten all the information.   
      
   Guards found Epstein "at approximately 6:33am" and sources say one of them   
   could be overheard saying, "Breathe, Epstein, breathe." Dr. Baden believes,   
   based on the autopsy, that Epstein died around 4:30 that morning. Two hours   
   earlier.   
      
   Sharyn Alfonsi: The guards say they came in at 6:30. They found him. They   
   call emergency services. They tried to do CPR with him, but he's dead. But   
   rather than leave the body there they take the body to an emergency room.   
      
   Dr. Michael Baden: Yeah.   
      
   Sharyn Alfonsi: Is that normal protocol?   
      
   Dr. Michael Baden: No, that's —that's not normal protocol. The EMS people   
   normally, and especially in a jail, should not move a dead body.   
      
   He's right. Bureau of Prisons protocol mandates a suicide scene should be   
   treated with the "same level of protection as any crime scene in which a   
   death has occurred."   
      
   60 Minutes reviewed hundreds of graphic photographs from the autopsy of   
   Jeffrey Epstein and inside his cell. There are two nooses, a bit of orange   
   sheet tied to the grate of a window. On the top bunk, bottles and medicines   
   stand upright. Below it, another piece of fabric is tied through a hole on   
   the bed about four feet from the ground.   
   Did Epstein, who was nearly 6 feet tall and 185 pounds, somehow lean in and   
   hang himself from the lower bunk? We don't know.   
      
   These are the known facts. On July 6, Jeffrey Epstein was booked into the   
   Metropolitan Correctional Center, or MCC, in downtown Manhattan. A federal,   
   high-security holding facility for inmates awaiting trial. Suicides at the   
   MCC are rare. The last one was 14 years ago. The jail has temporarily housed   
   everyone from Mexican drug lord El Chapo to mafia boss John Gotti and   
   fraudster Bernie Madoff.   
      
   Bruce Barket: MCC is the worst jail or prison I've ever been to by far.   
      
   Sharyn Alfonsi: It's not a "Club Fed."   
      
   Bruce Barket: It's not a club anything. It is dirty. It's insect infested,   
   rodent infested. It was built for about 350 and houses over 700. So the   
   inmates are packed in.   
      
   Bruce Barket is the lawyer for Epstein's first cellmate, 52-year-old Nick   
   Tartaglione. A brawny, former police officer accused of murdering four men.   
   They shared a cell in the "SHU," the Special Housing Unit, which is   
   considered safer than general population.   
      
   Bruce Barket: Jail's a tough place. The rules don't exist the way they do in   
   society. Somebody like Jeffrey Epstein, you know, an elderly, rich white male   
   is gonna have a tough time in general population.   
      
   Epstein was directing money to be deposited in other inmates' commissary   
   accounts in exchange for his protection, sources say, because he feared for   
   his life. But the government says Epstein was suicidal and made his first,   
   failed suicide attempt weeks after he arrived.   
      
   According to court documents, on July 23, a guard found Epstein, "on the   
   floor of his cell with a strip of bedsheet around his neck." Epstein claimed   
   his cellmate, Nick Tartaglione, attacked him.   
      
   Sharyn Alfonsi: Epstein says that Nick tried to kill him. Nick says,   
   "Absolutely nothing like that happened"?   
      
   Bruce Barket: It's not just Nick says, "Absolutely nothing happened."   
   Absolutely nothing happened. No one says that Nick tried to kill Epstein.   
      
   Epstein was moved to the psych unit and placed on suicide watch. But one week   
   later, Epstein, "at the direction of the MCC's psychological staff" was taken   
   off suicide watch and "required to have an assigned cellmate."   
      
   Cameron Lindsay: This was a monumental failure on all levels. And that's why   
   it has fueled the conspiracies and I understand that.   
      
   Cameron Lindsay is a former federal prison warden.   
      
   Sharyn Alfonsi: Who should've made sure that he wasn't taken off suicide   
   watch, in your opinion?   
      
   Cameron Lindsay: The leadership of the facility should've stepped in and   
   said, "While I appreciate the perspective of you, chief psychologist, I'm   
      
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