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|    60 Minutes investigates the death of Jef    |
|    06 Jan 20 04:33:44    |
      [continued from previous message]              gonna override that decision and we're going to leave Epstein on suicide       watch." Especially subsequent to the suicide attempt that he had.              Epstein was moved back to the SHU and assigned a new cellmate.              We reviewed photos, and interviewed jail employees, to create this composite       of the area. Each tier of the SHU has eight cells, usually with two inmates       per cell. Epstein's cell, 220, was about 15 feet away and up a set of stairs       from the guards' station, with a single locked gate between them. The gate is       the only way in or out of the tier.              Lawyers say the day before Epstein was found dead he was upbeat and looking       forward to an appeal hearing on his bail. That same day, his cellmate was       released and "no new cellmate was assigned." Even though he was required to       have one.              Michael Thomas and Tova Noel are the two guards who were working the       overnight shift on the SHU. Court documents say, "Epstein was escorted into       his cell by Tova Noel at approximately 7:49 p.m." Then, the guards didn't       check in on him again until "shortly after 6:30 a.m." the next morning.              Sharyn Alfonsi: So in the SHU they should be checked in on every 30 minutes?              Cameron Lindsay: They should be checked on every 30 minutes. It's my       understanding based on the documents that I examined, the two officers that       were working in the Special Housing Unit allegedly falsified the records and       did not do any rounds for approximately eight hours.              Sharyn Alfonsi: How big of a deal is that?              Cameron Lindsay: That's a huge, huge deal. This is one of the most basic       operational aspects of managing a jail or prison.              Instead, federal prosecutors say surveillance video "makes clear" the guards       "search the internet" and "appeared to have been asleep." Both guards were       working overtime.              Tyrone Covington: When your being forced to stay over shifts, not go home and       see your family you start to see people take short cuts.              Tyrone Covington is the president of the union that represents the guards who       both now face criminal charges and have pleaded not guilty.              Tyrone Covington: I absolutely believe that these staff members are being       made a scapegoat.              Sharyn Alfonsi: Because it was Jeffrey Epstein?              Tyrone Covington: Because it was Jeffrey Epstein.              Covington doesn't think there was any foul play and he says there should be       surveillance video to prove it.              In November, Attorney General William Barr told reporters he personally       reviewed surveillance video that showed nobody entered the area where Epstein       was held.              But sources say a second camera inside the tier, the one that could have seen       Epstein's cell door and the doors of other inmates, was not working that       night.              Sharyn Alfonsi: The theories that are out there, one of them is that it was       another inmate who may have killed Jeffrey Epstein.              Bruce Barket: Come on!              Sharyn Alfonsi: You don't believe that?              Bruce Barket: He was found hanging in his cell. He had tried to commit       suicide before that. He was a very wealthy man who was looking at a lifetime       in prison. You know, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.              Sharyn Alfonsi: So Epstein's taken off suicide watch, the day before he kills       himself, his roommate is— removed from the cell. The cameras on his tier are       not working. The guards fell asleep. It seems almost impossible to think all       of those things could happen in that way.              Cameron Lindsay: It does. And that's what makes this so shocking. And I mean,       this is a failure on multiple levels.              Sharyn Alfonsi: Do you think there's any way that Jeffrey Epstein could have       been murdered?              Cameron Lindsay: Absolutely, unequivocally not.              There was a note in Jeffrey Epstein's cell. He wrote that one guard kept me       in a locked shower stall for one hour. Noel (the guard) sent me burnt food.       Giant bugs crawling over my hands. No fun.              Dr. Michael Baden says if anyone thought Jeffrey Epstein was suicidal, they       wouldn't have let him have a ballpoint pen that could be used to harm himself       or someone else.              Sharyn Alfonsi: The other thing we just noticed looking at the photos. It       appears he had some kind of sleep apnea machine. You can see a long       electrical cord.              Dr. Michael Baden: Yes. There were other wires and cords present that it       would've been easy to use to hang oneself within a few minutes.              But the key reason Dr. Baden thinks Jeffrey Epstein's death might be a       homicide is because of the unusual fractures he saw in Epstein's neck.              Dr. Michael Baden: There were fractures of the left, the right, thyroid       cartilage and the left hyoid bone.              This is an autopsy photo of Epstein's broken hyoid bone, a U-shaped bone that       sits under the jaw that part of the tongue attaches to. The thyroid cartilage       sits at the front of the neck.              Dr. Michael Baden: I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal       hanging. Sometimes there's a fracture of the hyoid bone or a fracture of the       thyroid cartilage.              Sharyn Alfonsi: But not three?              Dr. Michael Baden: Very unusual to have two and not three. And going over—       over a thousand jail hangings, suicides in the New York City state prisons       over the past 40-50 years, no one had three fractures.              The New York City Medical Examiner's office disputes Baden's theory, saying       that fractures of the hyoid bone and cartilage can be seen in suicides and       homicides and they stand "firmly" behind their finding of suicide by hanging.              Then, there's the two nooses. This was the one that was sketched and included       in the autopsy by the medical examiner, presumably, because they thought it       was used in Epstein's death.              But Dr. Baden says that noose, and the wounds on Jeffrey Epstein's neck,       don't appear to match.              Sharyn Alfonsi: What do you see when you see these two things together?              Dr. Michael Baden: What I see here is that this noose doesn't match the       ligature furrow mark. It's wider than this.              Sharyn Alfonsi: To the naked eye, it looks like there's some blood here. And       it doesn't look like there's any blood on this noose.              Dr. Michael Baden: That's right. This looks like a clean noose that was never       used to compress anybody's neck.              Sharyn Alfonsi: There's also something that's striking about the photos. It—       the wound is down here. You'd think if somebody hung themselves the wound       would be maybe up here.              Dr. Michael Baden: Yes. Most hangings— especially free hangings the ligature       slides up to beneath the— the jawbone, the mandible. Here it's in the middle       of the neck.              Dr. Baden says a wound straight across the neck is more common when a victim       is strangled by a wire or cord.              He and Epstein's brother, Mark, met with the government and asked to see any       forensic testing and any video. But they say they were told the ongoing       criminal case against the two guards prevents the justice department from       releasing any information.              Sharyn Alfonsi: So the criminal charges are now basically a firewall for the       family to get any information about—              Dr. Michael Baden: From the Justice Department.              The charges have also silenced the guards. The attorney for guard Michael       Thomas says five months after Epstein's death, Thomas has still not spoken to       investigators or revealed how he, alone, found Epstein's body.              Disappointed that they never got to face Epstein in court, many victims are       now angry that the investigation into his death has left so many questions       still unanswered.              --       Trump takes out Iranian General planning more attacks on U.S. forces...              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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