XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, soc.culture   
   From: pothead@snakebite.com   
      
   On 2024-06-14, 26xh.0717 <26xh.0718@e6t4y.net> wrote:   
   > On 6/13/24 7:36 PM, pothead wrote:   
   >> On 2024-06-13, 26xh.0717 <26xh.0718@e6t4y.net> wrote:   
   >>> On 6/13/24 3:47 PM, D wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2024, J Carlson wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 6/13/2024 9:17 AM, David Hartung wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 6/13/24 10:12, "Lucas McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm,"   
   >>>>>> "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking   
   >>>>>> child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> [snip subhuman Nazi filth lies]   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Regarding Ukraine, if we fund the current government, we are funding   
   >>>>>> corrupt men and women   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That is a lie.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> There is no doubt that Ukraine is more corrupt than the average western   
   >>>> european country. There have been numerous _mainstream media_ reports   
   >>>> about that.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The question however, is not the funding of a corrupt country (all   
   >>>> countries are more or less corrupt), the question is winning the war   
   >>>> against Putin, and make sure he ends up in prison or dead.   
   >>>   
   >>>     Correct. Many of our "friends" suffer from corruption   
   >>>     but the Larger Goal negates that aspect.   
   >>>   
   >>>     Indeed to expect every country to be Just Like The USA before   
   >>>     we lend them a dime is just ludicrous. Xi and Putin would be   
   >>>     happy to lend them money/expertise, and would not be so picky.   
   >>>     So guess where the balance of power goes ?   
   >>>   
   >>>     One of the reasons the USA invaded Iraq was because Moscow   
   >>>     was out-bidding us, bringing Saddam Hussein into its orbit.   
   >>>     Too much land, too much oil, too much of a bunch of things   
   >>>     to let that happen. Iran + Iraq in Putin's grasp ... !   
   >>>   
   >>>> The second objective is to cut up russia, make the industrial part join   
   >>>> the west, and let the rest fall into durka-durka-stan territory without   
   >>>> the nukes of course.   
   >>>   
   >>>     I don't think that can be realized - and they WOULD bring   
   >>>     a bunch of nukes to 'Durka Durka' ...   
   >>   
   >> Ukraine is a new level of low in corruption.   
   >   
   >    Um ... no ... check out some of our other "friends"   
   >    over the years  :-)   
   >   
   >    Oh, and our OWN pol/biz people ... you don't really   
   >    think they pay $30,000 for a hammer, do you ?   
   >   
   >> The country has been corrupt long before the Russian invasion.   
   >> This will go down as one of the biggest boondoggles of all time.   
   >   
   >    As said, it DOESN'T MATTER if gov/mil take some coin   
   >    for themselves, the Big Picture of thwarting Putin is   
   >    the over-riding important goal. It will shape the world   
   >    for the next 50+ years (assuming there's a world left).   
   >   
   >    So, let's not "high principle" ourselves out of "friends".   
      
   Oh, I don't disagree at all. Like I've said before, follow the money.   
   It's almost always about the money and when it's not, then it's about power   
   and control.   
      
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   Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.   
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