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   Lucas McCain to Frank   
   Re: About Social Security ...   
   17 Feb 25 19:32:18   
   
   XPost: alt.home.repair   
   From: Lucas_McCain@tutanato.com   
      
   On 2/17/2025 5:05 PM, Frank wrote:   
   > On 2/17/2025 1:48 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:   
   >> On 2/17/2025 8:08 AM, Snag wrote:   
   >>>   Something to ponder:   
   >>> History Lesson on Your Social Security Card   
   >>>   
   >>> Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (and some older ones)   
   >>> didn't know this.   
   >>> It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it   
   >>> to your family   
   >>> and friends. They need a little history lesson on what's what and it   
   >>> doesn't matter   
   >>> whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts.   
   >>>   
   >>> Social Security   
   >>>   
   >>> Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and   
   >>> Card were not to be used for identification purposes. Since nearly   
   >>> everyone in the   
   >>> United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway   
   >>> and the   
   >>> message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION was removed.   
   >>>   
   >>> An old Social Security card with the "NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION"message.   
   >>> Our Social Security   
   >>>   
   >>> Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social   
   >>> Security (FICA) Program. He promised:   
   >>>   
   >>> 1) That participation in the Program would be   
   >>> completely voluntary,   
   >>>   
   >>> No longer Voluntary   
   >>>   
   >>> 2) That the participants would only have to pay   
   >>> 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual   
   >>> incomes into the Program,   
   >>>   
   >>> Now 7.65%   
   >>> On the first $90,000.   
   >>>   
   >>> 3) That the money the participants elected to put   
   >>> into the Program would be deductible from   
   >>> their income for tax purposes each year,   
   >>>   
   >>> No longer tax deductible   
   >>>   
   >>> 4) That the money the participants put in went to the   
   >>> Independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the   
   >>> General Operating Fund, and therefore, would   
   >>> only be used to fund the Social Security   
   >>> Retirement Program, and no other   
   >>> Government program, and,   
   >>>   
   >>> Under Johnson the money was moved to   
   >>> The General Fund and spent.   
   >>>   
   >>> 5) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed   
   >>> as income.   
   >>>   
   >>> Under Clinton & Gore   
   >>> up to 85% of your Social Security can be taxed.   
   >>>   
   >>> Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are   
   >>> now receiving a Social Security check every month --   
   >>> and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of   
   >>> the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put   
   >>> away -- you may be interested in the following:   
   >>>   
   >>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----   
   >>>   
   >>> Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the   
   >>> Independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the   
   >>> General Fund so that Congress could spend it?   
   >>>   
   >>> A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratically   
   >>> controlled House and Senate.   
   >>>   
   >>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------   
   >>> --------- --   
   >>>   
   >>> Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax   
   >>> deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?   
   >>>   
   >>> A: The Democratic Party.   
   >>>   
   >>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------   
   >>> --------- -----   
   >>>   
   >>> Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social   
   >>> Security annuities?   
   >>>   
   >>> A: The Democratic Party with Al Gore casting the   
   >>> 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the   
   >>> Senate, while he was Vice President of the U.S.   
   >>>   
   >>> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------   
   >>> --------- -   
   >>>   
   >>> Q: Which Political Party decided to start   
   >>> giving annuity payments to immigrants?   
   >>>   
   >>> (AND MY FAVORITE):   
   >>>   
   >>> A: That's right!   
   >>>   
   >>> Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.   
   >>> Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,   
   >>> began to receive Social Security payments! The   
   >>> Democratic Party gave these payments to them,   
   >>> even though they never paid a dime into it!   
   >>>   
   >>> ------------ -- ------------ --------- ----- ------------ ---------   
   >>> ---------   
   >>>   
   >>> Then, after violating the original contract (FICA),   
   >>> the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans   
   >>> want to take your Social Security away!   
   >>>   
   >>> And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!   
   >>> If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of   
   >>> awareness will be planted and maybe changes will   
   >>> evolve.   
   >>> But it's worth a try.   
   >>> How many people can YOU send this to?   
   >>>   
   >>> Actions speak louder than bumper stickers   
   >>   
   >> Thanks for posting. Fascinating info.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Current annoyance just doing Turbotax is a refund was due me until I   
   > added SS and now I owe them a bundle.   
   >   
   > We paid it as a tax that we would not get back as a benefit if we died   
   > early.  Now getting it we have to pay a tax on it.   
      
   I'm guessing by adding SS, it pushes you into a higher tax bracket.   
   Maybe a good tax accountant could point a way to avoid the the tax   
   penalty.  It seems unfair and creepy.   
      
      
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