XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   XPost: alt.defense   
   From: DF@tutanato.com   
      
   On 3/22/2025 10:56 PM, c186282 wrote:   
   > On 3/22/25 5:52 PM, Doctor Fill wrote:   
   >> On 3/22/2025 2:09 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:   
   >>> Doctor Fill wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> As to the 1940s technology, I doubt Iran would throw together an   
   >>>> Enola Gay type bomber and drop a Fat Boy on Tel Aviv using a   
   >>>> parachute.  The Houthi's are doing a good job of jacking up   
   >>>> insurance rates for ships going through the Red Sea, which redirect   
   >>>> lots of shipping around the Cape at the bottom of Africa, making   
   >>>> Israel's war on Hamas, Syria, and other neighbors very costly for   
   >>>> Europa -- which is their intention.   
   >>>   
   >>> After the French relieved their king of his meddlesome head, the   
   >>> remaining Europe--all kingdoms--did not want their peasants to get   
   >>> ideas, so they started wars against France.   
   >>>   
   >>> When Shiite Iran made itself a republic, the Sunni kingdoms did not   
   >>> want their peasants to get ideas, so they started wars against Iran.   
   >>>   
   >>> Iran responded by creating a ring of allies around the Sunni   
   >>> kingdoms. Yemen is the last piece.   
   >>>   
   >>> KSA responded by starting a war and genocide. The USA ever the   
   >>> Saudi's whore and useful idiot, supplied KSA with tools of war and   
   >>> genocide, and we said nothing as KSA slaughterred and starved Yemen.   
   >>>   
   >>> Yemen have found a vulnerability of KSA's suppliers and allies. It   
   >>> trying to use that to free itself of KSA.   
   >>>   
   >>> In the 1950s it is admitted and well known, at least in Iran, that   
   >>> the USA was part of the conspiracy that overturned the Iranian   
   >>> republic (so that Merrie Olde England could continue robbing them),   
   >>> installing the Shah and his beloved Savak.   
   >>>   
   >>> Iranians eventually got rid of their Shah again and made themselves   
   >>> another republic. The USA, true to form, which had shelterred German   
   >>> and Japanese war criminals to demonstrate our deep devotion to peace   
   >>> and justice, the USA shelterred an Iranian war criminal, the Shah.   
   >>>   
   >>> When the Sunni kingdoms bribed Iraq to overthrow the Iranian   
   >>> Revolution, the USA was johnny-on-the-spot, and aided Iraq against Iran.   
   >>>   
   >>> Iranians finally got a wee bit peeved and captured the embassy of the   
   >>> so totally innocent USA.   
   >>>   
   >>> I cannot possibly see what they were upset over.   
   >>>   
   >>> Because of this we must hates Iran forever. We can never rest until   
   >>> Savak again brings peace to that hell hole.   
   >>>   
   >>> Extra credit work: Young Iranian are become annoyed with their   
   >>> government's religious dogma and extremism. They would welcome a   
   >>> peaceful evolution to a less severe Iranian Republic. The USA has   
   >>> dedicated itself to pissing in their face to strengthen the hand of   
   >>> our eternal enemy.   
   >>>   
   >>> Oh, and those smugly reassuring themselves Iran is too deep in the   
   >>> stone age to drop a nuclear bomb on the USA, Iran has put a satellite   
   >>> in orbit. Physics being what physics is, once you are able to put a   
   >>> satellite in orbit, you are also able to de-orbit the satellite and   
   >>> drop it anywhere on the planet. Say....a white house. If Iran has a   
   >>> weapon no heavier than the spy satellite, that is that: they can nuke   
   >>> the USA anytime they want.   
   >>   
   >> The original poster, poor punctuation and all,   
   >   
   >    Tisk ! The punctuation is intentional, to achieve   
   >    a more 'conversational' tone in a text medium :-)   
   >   
   >    Also love the odd use of caps, for emphasis.   
   >   
   >    I will use the old Chomsky definition of 'communication'   
   >    which boils down to "If you can still 'get it' then it   
   >    is valid language/communications".   
   >   
   >    Ah, still remember old Mrs. Pritchard, her whole life   
   >    had contracted to finding any excuse to put red marks   
   >    on student's papers. Near-fascist prescriptive grammar   
   >    was still very popular at the time  :-)   
   >   
      
   I had a teacher like that in 7th grade in Lake Worth, Florida.  She   
   would delight in knocking down my grade on a test for talking in the   
   classroom. The posted grade was not a reflection of how well I did on a   
   test, but rather it was a reflection of how much she hated me.  She was   
   demented. Maybe it was the Draft and the Vietnam War that sent the   
   message to those teachers that punishing low grades could be a death   
   sentence to the students that got sent off to war who couldn't get a   
   college deferment because of low grades, so the teachers became less   
   strict on their grading if they had any conscience or soul.   
      
   Apparently Theodore John Kaczynski had a similar tormentor when he was   
   working on his Doctorate degree at UC Berkeley, resulting in his   
   dropping out and sending explosive devices to various professors around   
   the U.S. It raises questions in my mind of, say, what if teachers at   
   Hitler's art college had praised his paintings instead of humiliating   
   him and telling him his paintings were trash. History would have gone on   
   a vastly different trajectory.   
      
   >> was the person remarking that nuclear fission bombs were 1940s   
   >> technology, so my comment was meant to be facetious, not as an insult   
   >> to Iranian nuclear scientists or rocket engineers.   
   >   
   >    I certainly did not denigrate Iranian expertise ...   
   >    rather the opposite. Therein the danger.   
   >   
   >    Or has my posting-order list been compromised and   
   >    you are not talking about me at all ?   
      
   No. You were clear in your comments.  As I said, I was being facetious.   
      
   >   
   >> Your history refresher is well taken and shows that you are a more   
   >> informed and educated person than your usual usenet comments would   
   >> have ever suggested.   
   >>   
   >> It has crossed my mind over the years that if North Korea or Iran were   
   >> to use, say, a 25 kiloton fission bomb or bombs to take out, say NYC,   
   >> the District of Columbia, and perhaps London, Tel Aviv, and Brussels,   
   >> the irony might be that "far right" political parties in the former   
   >> "Free World" might see the acts as a net positive while the neo-cons   
   >> would join the far left types to indulge in expressing "outrage" at   
   >> Little Rocketman and the Ayatollah. It might make for a best seller   
   >> fictional thriller type novel at the very least.  Sort of an   
   >> international genre in the spirit of the Turner Diaries. (pardon my   
   >> poor diction, lol.)   
   >   
   >    Nuclear attacks on large western venues would not be   
   >    viewed as a positive by almost anybody. The "spin"   
   >    would be different according to political tilt and   
   >    environment. "Hawks" would seek to justify large scale   
      
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