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|    Dark Brandon to Jan Panteltje    |
|    Re: A power engineer on the Iberian grid    |
|    03 May 25 09:15:42    |
      XPost: misc.survivalism, alt.conspiracy       From: DB@cocks.net              On 5/2/2025 10:57 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote:       >> On 5/1/2025 11:34 PM, Jan Panteltje wrote:       >>>> Story by Capell Aris The Telegraph       >>>>       >>>> Last Monday, the Iberian grid suffered a disturbance in the south-west       >>>> at 12:33. In 3.5 seconds this worsened and the interconnection to France       >>>> disconnected. All renewable generation then went off-line, followed by       >>>> disconnection of all rotating generation plant. The Iberian blackout was       >>>> complete within a few seconds.       >>>>       >>>> At the time the grid was producing 28.4 GW of power, of which 79 per       >>>> cent was solar and wind. This was a problematic situation as solar and       >>>> wind plants have another, not widely known, downside – one quite apart       >>> >from their intermittency and expense.       >>>>       >>>> This is the fact that they do not supply any inertia to the grid.       >>>> Thermal powerplants – coal, gas, nuclear, for example – drive large       >>>> spinning generators which are directly, synchronously connected to the       >>>> grid. If there are changes which cause a difference between demand and       >>>> supply, the generators will start to spin faster or slower: but their       >>>> inertia resists this process, meaning that the frequency of the       >>>> alternating current in the grid changes only slowly. There is time for       >>>> the grid managers to act, matching supply to demand and keeping the grid       >>>> frequency within limits.       >>>>       >>>> This is vital because all grids must supply power at a steady frequency       >>>> so that electrical appliances work properly and safely. Deviations from       >>>> the standard grid frequency can cause damage to equipment and other       >>>> problems: in practice what happens quite rapidly when frequency changes       >>>> significantly is that grid machinery trips out to prevent these issues       >>>> and grids go down.       >>>>       >>>> When a grid has very little inertia in it – as with the Iberian one on       >>>> Monday – a problem which a high-inertia grid would easily resist can       >>>> cause a blackout within seconds. Lack of inertia was almost certainly       >>>> the primary cause of the Iberian blackout, as Matt Oliver has opined in       >>>> these pages. A grid with more inertia would not have collapsed as       >>>> quickly, and its operators would have had time to keep it up and running.       >>>>       >>>> Restoration of supplies was completed by early Tuesday morning, based on       >>>> reconnection to France, which facilitated progressive area reconnections       >>>> across Spain and Portugal.       >>>>       >>>> Iberia is part of the Continental Europe Synchronous Area which       >>>> stretches to 32 countries. It is interconnected as a phase-locked, 50 Hz       >>>> grid with a generation capacity of 700 GW. To improve the stability of       >>>> this grid, the EU aim is that all partners will extract 10 per cent of       >>>> their power consumption from synchronous interconnectors – ones which       >>>> transmit grid inertia – helping to make the whole system more resilient.       >>>> France is at 10 per cent, but peninsula grids and those at the       >>>> geographical fringe are the least interconnected. Spain has just 2 per       >>>> cent from synchronous interconnectors.       >>>>       >>>> But there are places where things are worse. The UK and Ireland are       >>>> island grids. They do have undersea power interconnectors to Europe but       >>>> these are non-synchronous DC links and transmit no grid inertia. There’s       >>>> little prospect that this will change.       >>>>       >>>> Both the Irish and UK grid system operators had developed an array of       >>>> grid protection services that can control grid frequency, loss of load       >>>> or generation protection, grid phase angle and recovering from grid       >>>> outages. Neither country has, to date, ever experienced a total system       >>>> failure, even during WWII.       >>>>       >>>> In 1974 construction started on Dinorwig Power Station. It is a pumped       >>>> storage generation plant designed specifically for the provision of all       >>>> the UK’s grid protection services. Dinorwig can make huge changes to its       >>>> output in a matter of seconds, compensating for sudden events. Operation       >>>> began in 1984. In 1990 all the UK’s generating stations could provide       >>>> inertia.       >>>>       >>>> Nowadays, 55 per cent of our generation mix (wind, solar, DC imports)       >>>> cannot supply inertia to the grid. Are we approaching a system that       >>>> compares with Spain and Portugal on Monday?       >>>>       >>>> It certainly looks that way. In 2012 the National Grid produced a solar       >>>> briefing note for the government which is still available online. In       >>>> that note they imagine a system that has 22 GW of solar power attached       >>>> to the grid. They demonstrate their concerns based on a sunny summer day       >>>> when demand is low. The sun rises at 5 o’clock when little or no       >>>> synchronous plant other than nuclear generation will be on line and at       >>>> midday, solar is 60 per cent of all generation. The Grid’s engineers       >>>> then considered that situation “difficult to manage” and concluded       that       >>>> wind+solar power must never exceed 60 per cent of generation.       >>>>       >>>> We now have 17.7 GW of grid-connected solar farms to which we must add       >>>> all rooftop solar installations. At midday on Tuesday according to       >>>> Gridwatch the UK’s asynchronous, no-inertia generation was at 66 per       >>>> cent of total generation.       >>>>       >>>> In 2014 National Grid produced a System Operability Framework document.       >>>> Their objective was to outline how future scenarios of generation mixes       >>>> would impact upon protection services for the grid. As more and more       >>>> renewable generators are brought on-line, the difficulties of managing       >>>> the grid have become more and more onerous. For example, one service       >>>> titled “primary response” in 1990 called for selected generation       plants       >>>> to increase generation within 10 seconds after a fault is detected: by       >>>> 1,200 MW in winter and 1,500 MW in summer. In 2024 these increases are       >>>> required in 1.2 seconds!       >>>>       >>>> After nearly 50 years of operation, Dinorwig Power Station is currently       >>>> shut down for major repairs and there has been no information on when it       >>>> will re-open. Over the next five years all of our nuclear stations, bar       >>>> Sizewell, will be closed. Over the same period our combined cycle gas       >>>> generator fleet will halve from 30 GW to 15 GW. (It takes 5 years to       >>>> build a new CCGT even using an existing site. The new ones are 66 per              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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