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   BTR1701 to R. L. King   
   Re: Russia - Cold War is OVER ... Now "F   
   03 Oct 25 16:00:23   
   
   XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: atropos@mac.com   
      
   R. L. King wrote:   
      
   >Better a nationalist, patriot leader protecting his people   
      
   Trump needs to kill Putin.   
      
   Slavics are subhumans.  Lower than niggers and catholics.   
      
   They're like Italians, all they know is crime and murder.   
      
   Are there any rightist Christian white men who AREN'T pedophiles?   
      
   RED STATE CRIME!  Trump's Christian 'Spiritual Advisor' PLEADS GUILTY To   
   Sexually Abusing A Child   
      
      
   His supporters are saying that since his victim was female, it confirms   
   he's not a homo.   That's the new MAGA gold standard for sexual assault,   
   heavily influenced by our great President.   
      
      
   Robert Morris, Texas megachurch pastor, pleads guilty to sexually abusing a   
   child   
      
   Under a plea agreement, Morris was given a 10-year sentence, but he will   
   serve only six months in an Oklahoma jail.   
      
   Oct. 2, 2025, 4:01 PM EDT   
      
   PAWHUSKA, Okla.— Robert Morris, the Texas megachurch pastor who built   
   Gateway Church into one of the largest congregations in the country,   
   pleaded guilty Thursday in Osage County District Court to charges that he   
   sexually abused a girl in the 1980s.   
      
   Morris, 64, entered the plea before Judge Cindy Pickerill, admitting to   
   five felony counts of lewd or indecent acts with a child. Under a   
   negotiated plea agreement, he was given a 10-year sentence, but he will   
   serve only six months in the county jail. He must also register as a sex   
   offender and pay $250,000 in restitution.   
      
   Morris was handcuffed and taken into custody after Thursday's hearing.   
   Robert Morris leaves Osage County District Court handcuffed after pleading   
   guilty. on Oct. 2, 2025.   
      
   Cindy Clemishire, the woman who accused Morris of molesting her at age 12,   
   sat in the courtroom, surrounded by family, as Morris accepted   
   responsibility — a moment she sought for decades.   
      
   The plea represents a remarkable fall for Morris, who founded Gateway in   
   2000 in Southlake, Texas, and grew it into a megachurch with tens of   
   thousands of weekly attendees. His sermons were broadcast to audiences   
   around the world, his books became bestsellers in evangelical circles, and   
   he served as a faith adviser to President Donald Trump.   
      
   That career collapsed in June 2024 after Clemishire, 55, publicly accused   
   him of sexually abusing her. Within days, Gateway announced that Morris was   
   stepping down. In a statement at the time, Morris acknowledged what he   
   described as "a moral failure" with a "young lady" decades earlier but   
   didn't respond to the specifics of the allegation.   
   Cindy Clemishire at her childhood home in Hominy, Okla., on Oct. 2, 2025.   
   Cindy Clemishire at her childhood home in Hominy, Okla., ahead of Morris'   
   guilty plea.September Dawn Bottom for NBC News   
      
   Clemishire told NBC News the abuse began on Christmas night in 1982, when   
   she was 12 and wearing flowery pink pajamas. Morris, a traveling evangelist   
   in his early 20s who sometimes stayed with her family in Oklahoma, invited   
   her to his room, where, she said, he instructed her to lie on her back. He   
   then touched her breasts and felt under her panties, she said — the first   
   of several similar encounters that would span the next few years. "Never   
   tell anyone about this," Clemishire recalled him saying. "It will ruin   
   everything."   
      
   She kept the secret until 1987, when she told her parents and leaders at   
   her church. Morris went through what he later described as a "restoration   
   process" in the late 1980s before he returned to ministry. Nobody called   
   the police, Clemishire said.   
      
   Years later, in the mid-2000s — after Morris had risen to national   
   prominence — Clemishire approached him and leaders of Gateway Church,   
   seeking $50,000 in restitution to recover what she'd spent processing her   
   childhood trauma in therapy, records show. In 2007, Morris' lawyer at the   
   time wrote a letter suggesting Clemishire bore responsibility for the   
   "inappropriate behavior" between her and Morris when she was a child,   
   according to a copy of the message reviewed by NBC News. Morris offered to   
   pay $25,000, but the talks fell apart, Clemishire said, because she wasn't   
   willing to sign a nondisclosure agreement.   
   file photos of Cindy Clemishire and Robert Morris   
   Cindy Clemishire on Christmas, 1982; Robert Morris and his wife and child   
   while staying at Clemishire's childhood home in 1984.Courtesy Cindy   
   Clemishire   
      
   After decades of roadblocks, a family friend encouraged Clemishire to go   
   public last year. She shared her story with The Wartburg Watch, a blog   
   focused on exposing stories of abuse in churches.   
      
   After Morris resigned, the Oklahoma attorney general's office opened an   
   investigation. In March 2025, a multicounty grand jury indicted him on the   
   five felony counts, charging that he had abused Clemishire from 1982 to   
   1985. Prosecutors argued that Oklahoma law allowed them to pursue the case   
   despite the passage of decades, pointing to a frontier-era provision that   
   pauses the clock on the statute of limitations when a defendant moves out   
   of state.   
      
   At his first court appearance in May, Morris pleaded not guilty and was   
   released on a $50,000 bond. Last month, he waived his preliminary hearing,   
   a signal that his defense team and prosecutors were engaged in plea   
   negotiations. Those talks culminated Thursday with Morris' guilty plea.   
   Robert Morris enters Osage County District Court on Oct. 2, 2025.   
   Robert Morris enters Osage County District Court on Thursday.September Dawn   
   Bottoms for NBC News   
      
   In a prepared statement, Clemishire told Morris in court his abuse "rippled   
   into every part" of her life, straining relationships, damaging her   
   marriages and affecting the way she raised her children. She said she   
   prayed that God helped him to understand the depth of the pain he   
   inflicted.   
      
   Morris' eyes were fixed on the table in front of him as Clemishire,   
   speaking through tears, faced him during her remarks.   
      
   "Let me be clear," she said. "There is no such thing as consent from a 12-   
   year-old child. We were never in an 'inappropriate relationship.' I was not   
   a 'young lady' but a child. You committed a crime against me."   
      
   Clemishire 's 82-year-old father silently wept as she spoke. Her sister,   
   Karen Black, also testified, sharing how the abuse shattered every member   
   of their family — grief compounded by decades of watching Morris rise to   
   celebrity.   
      
   "You pretended to be holy, preaching from big pulpits," Black told him in   
   court. "As you hid behind your facade, we've known you are nothing but a   
   predator."   
      
   As he was being led away in handcuffs, Morris turned to his wife, Debbie,   
   and their children: "Love y'all," he said.   
      
   The guilty plea is the latest development in a case that has reverberated   
   far beyond rural Oklahoma. In November, Gateway Church announced it had   
      
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