XPost: alt.politics, talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: df@tutanato.com
On 11/12/2025 8:07 AM, Grimble Crumble wrote:
> Doctor Fill wrote:
>> On 11/12/2025 12:23 AM, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 11/11/25 23:57, Doctor Fill wrote:
>>>> On 11/11/2025 9:06 PM, c186282 wrote:
>>>>> On 11/11/25 22:50, Doctor Fill wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/11/2025 8:09 PM, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/11/25 20:36, Doctor Fill wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/10/2025 7:59 PM, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> https://techxplore.com/news/2025-11-popular-ai-ready-safely-
>>>>>>>>> power.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Popular AI models aren't ready to safely power robots, study warns
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Robots powered by popular artificial intelligence models are
>>>>>>>>> currently unsafe for general purpose real-world use, according
>>>>>>>>> to new research from King's College London and Carnegie
>>>>>>>>> Mellon University.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> . . .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They easily lie, cheat, confabulate. They are very
>>>>>>>>> biased when it comes to social status, race, religion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bias is not necessarily "unsafe" or a defect of some sort.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IS if you're on the downside of that bias ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AIs will soon be used to decide if you're worthy
>>>>>>> for most everything. Human bosses love that, just
>>>>>>> blame the machine when there's a big fuck-up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A "consumer" might be "biased" toward buying cars known for
>>>>>>>> quality and reliability over cars known for electrical problems
>>>>>>>> and frequent recalls. One might be biased not to go into
>>>>>>>> dangerous parts of cities and, perhaps, note that a particular
>>>>>>>> ethnic group or race is associated with crime and violence. It
>>>>>>>> would be rather foolish to say all biases are wrong headed, even
>>>>>>>> if it's a robot that holds the biases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A "race" or whatever may have better or worse crime
>>>>>>> stats or such, but an INDIVIDUAL of said groups is
>>>>>>> not necessarily what the bias would imply. All should
>>>>>>> get a fair shake in court, at the bank, at the job.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, but it sounds as if you're into 'mechano-racism'
>>>>>>> here - NAZI aims 'justified' by machine 'intelligence'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I fail to see the benefit of programming woketardedness into AI
>>>>>> controlled robots. If the AI is crippled by wokeness and there are
>>>>>> virtual gatekeepers second guessing the AI decision, then one ends
>>>>>> up with silicon versions of usenet trolls.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gatekeepers" can be SUED ... biz would like to
>>>>> keep it ALL 'AI' so they can blame the machine.
>>>>> Smart legalistics.
>>>>>
>>>>> In short, NO 'gatekeepers' - the word of the AI
>>>>> will be the alpha and omega.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever 'group'/demo you may fall into, the AI
>>>>> will be ruthless - and SCREW you if it's algos
>>>>> decide so Just Because.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The whole country or planet will be one big Gaza controlled by
>>>> Palentir like AI killing bots.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ummmm ... read yer history ... alas that's kind of NORMAL ....
>>>
>>> Westerners have become used to what 'The Enlightement' spawned.
>>> However that's a historical abnormality. All documented history
>>> paints a MUCH more severe picture ... a norm we now seem to
>>> be drifting back to. "Rights" ? "Dissent" ? NO !
>>>
>>> As for kill-bots ... they ARE working hard on those. Soulless
>>> robo-cops. 10 years to proper products ? Less ???
>>>
>>
>> A Mormon I do Bible studies with suggested that the 200+ million man
>> army that is prophesied in Book of Revelation to attack Jerusalem in the
>> end times is actually made up of AI controlled bots, perhaps of Chinese
>> origin. His interpretation fits with the description of "insect like
>> creatures with human heads" that sting and torment humans.
>>
>
> Okay then. Putting literally everything aside, why do you care so much
> about these robots' "woketardness"? It seems the bigger issue is the robots
> themselves. You might like racist robocop more than woke robocop, but
> aren't *all* robocops the issue. It's not necessary that these robots exist
> at all.
>
> It's not even necessary to justify race bias, yet you chose to defend it
> anyways.
I'm not defending race bias, I'm defending the AI "bot" / "robot" /
silicon "brain" having such a race bias.
>
> Also, where did you get the robots' Chinese origin from? Lol.
>
I explained where I got the idea very clearly in the post you are
replying to.
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