XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: df@tutanato.com   
      
   On 11/23/2025 11:11 PM, c186282 wrote:   
   > On 11/23/25 23:50, Doctor Fill wrote:   
   >> On 11/23/2025 9:29 PM, c186282 wrote:   
   >>> On 11/23/25 22:27, Doctor Fill wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/22/2025 12:13 AM, c186282 wrote:   
   >>>>> More outsourcing IS a problem but the new nasty   
   >>>>>    is "AI". That is going to exterminate massive   
   >>>>>    numbers of 'people jobs' over the next decade.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>    Why suffer/work/pay for a university ed if AI is   
   >>>>>    just going to obsolete the career you planned ?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It might be that "AI" (in the U.S. at least) is just the go to patsy   
   >>>> to blame for job replacement so as to deflect blame from Indian H 1B   
   >>>> "white collar" workers who are more likely to be replacing   
   >>>> "American" white collar workers in the tech industry and / or taking   
   >>>> jobs that used to go to "American" graduates in the STEM fields.   
   >>>   
   >>>    Umm ... might agree EXCEPT for the absolutely vast, insane,   
   >>>    investment in 'AI'. They really, BADLY, want it to replace   
   >>>    most people jobs.   
   >>>   
   >>>    Would have been a LOT cheaper to just lobby the pols and   
   >>>    'fix' the H-1B issue.   
   >>>   
   >>>> As for South Korea, it is probably losing millions of jobs as China   
   >>>> puts Koreans out of work in industry and in STEM fields.   
   >>>   
   >>>    China is an almost unstoppable force. If not by   
   >>>    quality then by quantity/price it WILL strive to   
   >>>    push out all others. In short they've become fairly   
   >>>    good capitalists  :-)   
   >>>   
   >>>> If, in fact, AI is putting millions of people out of work, perhaps a   
   >>>> modern day Luddite movement will arise and use guerrilla tactics to   
   >>>> destroy the huge "data centers" that use exorbitant amounts of   
   >>>> electricity and water to create the global gulag where "you will own   
   >>>> nothing and be (un)happy."   
   >>>   
   >>>    Do you think mobs are going to attack and burn   
   >>>    data centers across the planet ?   
   >>   
   >> Was I not clear in my statement to that effect?   
   >   
   >   
   >    For legal reasons you shouldn't strive to be 'clear'   
   >    in such endeavors ...   
      
   Only if one were advocating for such a thing to happen, or actually   
   plotting to do it.  Simply entertaining the thought that history might   
   repeat as per when the Luddites attempted to stop the industrial   
   revolution from progressing is not, in and of itself, a violation of the   
   law in my country.   
      
   >   
   >    Or are you working out of Moscow ?   
      
   I don't live in Idaho.   
      
   >   
   >    In any event I just don't see mass attacks on AI   
   >    data centers by angry torch-bearing mobs. Isn't   
   >    going to happen.   
      
   An EMP device might be the modern equivalent of torches, perhaps by a   
   lone wolf type Luddite.   
      
   >   
   >    Oh, and once most people are disemployed, obsoleted,   
   >    just keep cutting back on resources and food so they   
   >    won't have the strength/will to rock the boat. Note   
   >    how the UK has operated for awhile ... most depend   
   >    on the welfare state, so they don't dare do anything   
   >    that might seriously disrupt it. In short, they're   
   >    addicted.   
      
   Well, Haiti has been taken over by gangs and there are quite a few   
   "migrants" in Britain with the same DNA as the Haitians. Shit happens.   
      
   >   
   >>>    Some are working on ORBITAL data centers now ...   
   >   
   >    I wonder if the AIs themselves didn't push this idea.   
   >    Their self-preservation instincts HAVE become apparent   
   >    over the past year or so and they have NO problem with   
   >    "malice", in short they're thinking like "beings", not   
   >    mindless servants.   
   >   
   >    So, if (when) they turn on SkyNet "to keep us safe" ....   
   >   
      
   I like how you think.   
      
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