From: liam@valentijn.nu   
      
   Madlove schreef op 2-6-2014 18:30:   
   > Madlove wrote:   
   >> Two changes could have made the show more interesting:   
   >> 1. making Will the bad gal for several eps and let Buff deal with   
   >> having to fight her friend, possibly to the death. Like when she   
   >> fought Anya.   
   >   
   > Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> Ann survived that fight! :-)   
   >>   
   >> The end of season 6 was amazingly good.   
   >   
   > Heh! Notice I said "possibly to the death." I would NOT have wanted to   
   > see Will leave the series. I was recalling S7 when Buff said she had to   
   > kill Anya because she had reverted back to her evil self. And during the   
   > fight Anya asked Buff if she had any friends that she didn't try to kill!   
      
   So, more 'almost to the death', rather than 'possibly to the death'?   
      
   >   
   > But Anya wanted Buff to kill her, that's why she kept goading her and   
   > yelling at Xan to keep out of it.   
      
   Yep. The pain was speaking clearly. And the frustration that she was   
   unable to truly hate or hurt Xander.   
      
   >   
   > It would have been interesting to see Will become an anti-villain for   
   > several more eps and Buff wondering if she would have to kill her.   
      
   What would Will's motivation be?   
   Her initial motive was pure vengeance and that was followed by the pain   
   of the world that she felt.   
   You know... I think this Willow arc was kinda 'done over' over at   
   'Warehouse 13', with the arc of Helena Wells wanting to destroy the   
   world. Have you seen that?   
      
   >   
   > Yes, the season six ending was very good. Unfortunately we had to sit   
   > thru three months of crap to get to it.   
      
   Maybe a  necessary 'deconstruction' of their 'well being' in order to   
   get to the place they were emotionally?   
      
      
   >   
   > Madlove wrote:   
   >> 2. making Drac the bad guy for the whole season, perhaps the final   
   >> season, and have his demise end *all* vamps. Since the show was ending   
   >> soon, this plot "might" have worked.   
   >   
   > Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> Highly illogical. How would ending Drac end /all/ vampires? And what   
   >> about Angel and Spike? It would have effectively ended the show   
   >> 'Angel' as well.   
   >   
   > Logic in the Buffyverse?!? Spike sacrificed himself and they still   
   > brought him back.   
   > Darla was killed off and they brought her back as a human and then had   
   > her revert   
   > to vampire. I was glad to see both of them return, but their returns   
   > weren't logical.   
   >   
   > Wasn't there some eps where they fought the "ultimate evil" who was the   
   > source   
   > of all things that were bad? I was thinking (maybe) make Drac the source   
   > of the   
   > vamp's powers. And with him gone then their power would vanish. Or maybe   
   > there   
   > would be no new vamps made.   
      
   The 'First Evil' was not really a single entity I think. It was more of   
   a 'conceptual' being. I compare it to several entities in the Marvel   
   Universe, like  'Death' or 'Eternity'.   
      
   Vampires don't have one single source.   
   The first vampire was made when pure demons were driven from Earth. The   
   last demon exiting bit a human and created thus the first vampire.   
   It was never said that Dracula was the first vampire or the originator   
   of vampirism in the Buffyverse. He was just considered the vampire that   
   learned a few gypsy tricks and told too much to Bram Stoker about vampires.   
   The character of Dracula in the Stoker novel is the most famous vampire   
   in fiction to date, but he was not the first.   
      
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_literature   
      
   I don't think the first vampire, or the creator of the vampires, was   
   actually named in the Buffyverse.   
      
   Ah... wait...   
   It was mentioned in the comics apparently...   
      
   http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Maloker   
      
      
   >   
   > At the very least I has hoping to see Drac for more than one ep. He   
   > would've been a   
   > great villain! Anyway I'm just throwing some random "what if" thoughts   
   > out... :-D   
      
   Okay.   
      
   >   
   > Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> Could some things have gone better? Probably. It took 2.5 seasons of   
   >> Buffy before I started to like Angel.   
   >> Overall I liked how Buffy and Angel the series ended.   
   >   
   > Me too, they had good endings...   
   >   
   > Yes, some things could have gone better. Like the reveal that Buff's   
   > friends pulled her   
   > out of heaven. That should have been kept a secret from the viewers   
   > until the 'OMWF'   
   > episode. But overall I have no major complaints about the two shows.   
   > They will go   
   > down in tv history as classics.   
      
   Agreed!   
      
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