From: madlove@arkham.dc   
      
   Madlove wrote:   
   > Heh! Notice I said "possibly to the death." I would NOT have wanted to   
   > see Will leave the series. I was recalling S7 when Buff said she had to   
   > kill Anya because she had reverted back to her evil self. And during the   
   > fight Anya asked Buff if she had any friends that she didn't try to kill!   
      
   Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   > So, more 'almost to the death', rather than 'possibly to the death'?   
      
   Yes, that would do it! Like when Wesley almost killed Faith after she   
   went nutso.   
   Kinda surprising that Whedon didn't have him actually kill her. That's   
   the type of   
   thing he does in his shows.   
      
   Madlove wrote:   
   > It would have been interesting to see Will become an anti-villain for   
   > several more eps and Buff wondering if she would have to kill her.   
      
   Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   > What would Will's motivation be?   
   > Her initial motive was pure vengeance and that was followed by the pain   
   > of the world that she felt.   
      
   Those two (vengeance and pain) should be enough motivation to do it. :-D   
   She was only a "bad gal" in the "Villains", "Two To Go", and "Grave"   
   episodes   
   but it was Xan who saved the day - not Buff.   
      
   Which makes more sense because there is no way that Buff could have   
   stopped her at that point. She's a vamp slayer, not an entity killer.   
      
   Now that I rethink about it, three eps was the right amount of time for Will   
   to be bad. Any more than that and it would've been tedious. However it was   
   odd that by the next season *everything* was back to normal and there was   
   little mention of her trying to destroy reality.   
      
   It would've been more interesting if Will had kept signs of her   
   transformation   
   (hair now black?, personality change?) for the remainder of the show.   
      
   Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   > You know... I think this Willow arc was kinda 'done over' over at   
   > 'Warehouse 13', with the arc of Helena Wells wanting to destroy the   
   > world. Have you seen that?   
      
   Never watched that show. It's too "X-Files" ripoff for me.   
      
      
   Madlove wrote:   
   > 2. making Drac the bad guy for the whole season, perhaps the final   
   > season, and have his demise end *all* vamps. Since the show was ending   
   > soon, this plot "might" have worked.   
      
      
   Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   > The 'First Evil' was not really a single entity I think. It was more of   
   > a 'conceptual' being. I compare it to several entities in the Marvel   
   > Universe, like  'Death' or 'Eternity'.   
      
   Not exactly sure what this means??? But I seem to recall there was more   
   than one "first evil" in the show. In fact in the last season they were   
   sitting   
   around the house and Anya said something along the lines of, "if I had a   
   nickel   
   for every villain who claimed that he was the original source of evil   
   I'd be rich!"   
      
   :-D   
      
   I don't recall the ep where she said that, but it really made me laff!   
      
   Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   > Vampires don't have one single source.   
   > The first vampire was made when pure demons were driven from Earth.   
   > The last demon exiting bit a human and created thus the first vampire.   
   > It was never said that Dracula was the first vampire or the originator   
   > of vampirism in the Buffyverse. He was just considered the vampire that   
   > learned a few gypsy tricks and told too much to Bram Stoker about vampires.   
   > The character of Dracula in the Stoker novel is the most famous vampire   
   > in fiction to date, but he was not the first.   
   >   
   > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_literature   
   >   
   > I don't think the first vampire, or the creator of the vampires, was   
   > actually named in the Buffyverse.   
   >   
   > Ah... wait...   
   > It was mentioned in the comics apparently...   
   >   
   > http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Maloker   
      
   Ok, then 'bang' goes my idea of having all the vamps die out with Drac. :-D   
   I had always assumed that he was the first vamp and the originator of the   
   curse. Didn't know there were others before him.   
      
   And it was cool how he turned Xan into Renfield! Since he's a very   
   charismatic   
   character it would have made for an interesting story arc if he had   
   influenced   
   more people (especially the girls) in town... :-D   
      
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