From: liiam@valentijn.nu   
      
   Madlove schreef op 6-6-2014 05:39:   
   > Madlove wrote:   
   >> Yes, that would do it! Like when Wesley almost killed Faith after she   
   >> went nutso.   
   >   
   > Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> You mean when they had to transport her to the Council in England? I   
   >> think he was under orders to bring her in alive. Plus, Wes is not really   
   >> a cold blooded killer. Not in those days I think.   
   >   
   > Not sure, I was thinking of when she kidnapped and tortured him. She was   
   > begging him to kill her in the rain. She later went to jail...   
      
   That was Angel in the rain. Faith cried out that she was 'bad'. See the   
   episode 'Five by Five'. Wes was there, but she begged Angel to kill her.   
   After Wes saw that Angel started to comfort her he dropped the knife.   
      
   http://www.buffyworld.com/angel/transcripts/018_tran.html   
      
   See at the bottom of the page.   
      
   >   
   > Wes became more cold-blooded and less of a joke later on.   
      
   After his throat was slit. By Justine.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > Madlove wrote:   
   >> Which makes more sense because there is no way that Buff could have   
   >> stopped her at that point. She's a vamp slayer, not an entity killer.   
   >   
   > Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> Well, the Buffster kills demons and other evil as well.   
   >   
   > Ha! Demons aren't entities! Course she did take on Glory.   
      
   Glory was a god.   
      
   Then, what do you mean by 'entity'?   
      
   Wikipedia gives this definition:   
      
      
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity   
      
      
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   >   
   > Madlove wrote:   
   >> Now that I rethink about it, three eps was the right amount of time for   
   >> Will to be bad. Any more than that and it would've been tedious.   
   >> However it   
   >> was odd that by the next season *everything* was back to normal and   
   >> there was   
   >> little mention of her trying to destroy reality.   
   >   
   > Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> There were several months between that.   
   >> And there were moments were you could see a glimpse of Dark Willow in   
   >> season 7.   
   >   
   > Flay someone alive... try to destroy all life... yeah, a couple of   
   > months and things   
   > will be back the way they were. :-D   
      
   They did get over that part. After some sessions with Giles and that   
   Brit coven.   
      
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   >   
   > Madlove wrote:   
   >> But I seem to recall there was more   
   >> than one "first evil" in the show. In fact in the last season they were   
   >> sitting around the house and Anya said something along the lines of,   
   >> "if I had a   
   >> nickel for every villain who claimed that he was the original source   
   >> of evil   
   >> I'd be rich!"   
   >   
   > Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> In 'Showtime' it was said: "It cannot be fought. It cannot be killed.   
   >> The First Evil has been and always will be, since before the universe was   
   >> born. Long after there is nothing else, it will go on."   
   >>   
   >> Could that quote have been from Spike about vampires claiming to have   
   >> witnessed the Crucifixion? After which he himself claimed to have been   
   >> at Woodstock. The festival. Not the bird. (see 'School Hard').   
   >   
   > That idea was ripped off for the movie "Dracula 2000" were Drac was Judas   
   > and that's why he and vamps hated the cross. A cool idea!   
      
      
   Now that you mention it, I've seen that movie too! :-)   
      
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   >   
   > Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> Ah, wait! I've found it.   
   >> From: 'Bring on the Night':   
   >>   
   >> Buffy: Pretty sure. It claimed to be the original evil, the one that   
   >> came before anything else.   
   >>   
   >> Anya: Please, how many times have I heard that line in my demon days?   
   >> "I'm so rotten, they don't even have a word for it. I'm bad. Baddy bad   
   >> bad bad. Does it make you horny?" [everyone stares at her] Or terrified.   
   >> Whatever.   
   >>   
   >> http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer#Bring_on_the_Night   
   >   
   > Yep! That's the line and the episode. I recall it well!   
   >   
   > Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> Were you a fan of the Hammer movies or Count Yorga?   
   >   
   > Never heard of either of 'em!   
      
      
      
   About the Hammer movies:   
   So you never saw the great Christopher Lee as Dracula?   
      
   Wow....   
      
   Check this out:   
      
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTbY0BgIRMk   
      
      
      
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