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   From: anim8rfsk@cox.net   
      
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    BTR1701  wrote:   
      
   > In article ,   
   >  anim8rFSK  wrote:   
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   > > In article <1g6gr9tm0pkgi6suvrbu6t0aa79j8edlu6@4ax.com>,   
   > >  shawn  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > On Sat, 05 Jul 2014 09:50:15 -0400, Ubiquitous    
   > > > wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > >In article <6itfr9lokikdf650gqkb51u1bgcmfqohkv@4ax.com>, me@privacy.net   
   > > > >wrote:   
   > > > >   
   > > > >>Buffy was on The Warner Brother's network when it started then moved to   
   > > > >>UPN   
   > > > >>late.   Firefly was on FOX.   In general, a much larger audience is   
   > > > >>required   
   > > > >>to keep a show on one of the large networks.   Buffy likely wouldn't   
   > > > >>have   
   > > > >>survived on FOX either if it had drawn the same audience numbers.   
   > > > >   
   > > > >If memory serves, Buffy was part of their core programming.   
   > > > >   
   > > > >>I watched Firefly when it aired and was a big fan but it took me and   
   > > > >>most   
   > > > >>people a few episodes to warm up to it because FOX aired the episodes   
   > > > >>out   
   > > > >>of   
   > > > >>the intended order.   They started with The Train Job instead of   
   > > > >>Serenity   
   > > > >>which did a much better job of introducing the characters.  Plus it was   
   > > > >>pre-empted a few times for the baseball playoffs that year if I recall   
   > > > >>correctly.  It was never given much of a chance.   
   > > > >   
   > > > >I enjoyed Firefly but that was the extent of it for me.   
   > > >   
   > > > I thought Firefly was great and might have drawn an audience if it had   
   > > > been given another year to build that audience, but I can understand   
   > > > why Fox didn't do that.   
   > > >   
   > > > >>By the way, if you liked the first 5 episodes of Buffy, it gets even   
   > > > >>better.   
   > > > >>It was a great show till the end of season 3 when many thought it   
   > > > >>started   
   > > > >>going downhill.  Mostly because the show started out as a metaphor for   
   > > > >>High   
   > > > >>school.  Once they graduated they lost something.  Even the later   
   > > > >>seasons   
   > > > >>probably play much better when you can binge watch at your own pace and   
   > > > >>some   
   > > > >>of the best episodes of the whole series were after season 3.   
   > > > >   
   > > > >I think the show-is-ametaphore-for-highschool theory is rather dubious,   
   > > > >IMHO.   
   > > > >I am guessing these are the same people who swear there's some sort of   
   > > > >lesbian   
   > > > >subcontext to Xena.   
   > > > >   
   > > > >I thought the show peaked with the Dark Willow story and was defintiely   
   > > > >running   
   > > > >on fumes the final season.   
   > > >   
   > > > I felt like it lost something as Joss moved on to working on Angel   
   > > > most of the time and leaving Marti Noxon in charge. Marti loves her   
   > > > dramas but she doesn't have the Joss touch.   
   > >   
   > > Actually I think Joss was more distracted by trying to get Firefly going   
   > > than he was involved in Angel.   
   > >   
   > > And, yeah, Noxon destroyed Buffy; the demarcation line is when she   
   > > ruined DRACULA, and things never recovered.   
   >   
   > Yeah, I remember being rather hyped to see how Dracula was going to be   
   > incorporated into the BUFFY mythos, and after the episode was over, I   
   > recall thinking that it was the first time I actively disliked an   
   > episode of the show.   
      
   That's a Marti ep, and it's got all kinds of weird crap in it, like the   
   rainstorm that heralds Dawn, and Dracula's castle just appearing in   
   town?  What the heck?  Was it there the next week?   
      
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