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    anim8rFSK  wrote:   
      
   > In article <1g6gr9tm0pkgi6suvrbu6t0aa79j8edlu6@4ax.com>,   
   >  shawn  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Sat, 05 Jul 2014 09:50:15 -0400, Ubiquitous    
   > > wrote:   
   > >   
   > > >In article <6itfr9lokikdf650gqkb51u1bgcmfqohkv@4ax.com>, me@privacy.net   
   > > >wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > >>Buffy was on The Warner Brother's network when it started then moved to   
   > > >>UPN   
   > > >>late.   Firefly was on FOX.   In general, a much larger audience is   
   > > >>required   
   > > >>to keep a show on one of the large networks.   Buffy likely wouldn't have   
   > > >>survived on FOX either if it had drawn the same audience numbers.   
   > > >   
   > > >If memory serves, Buffy was part of their core programming.   
   > > >   
   > > >>I watched Firefly when it aired and was a big fan but it took me and most   
   > > >>people a few episodes to warm up to it because FOX aired the episodes out   
   > > >>of   
   > > >>the intended order.   They started with The Train Job instead of Serenity   
   > > >>which did a much better job of introducing the characters.  Plus it was   
   > > >>pre-empted a few times for the baseball playoffs that year if I recall   
   > > >>correctly.  It was never given much of a chance.   
   > > >   
   > > >I enjoyed Firefly but that was the extent of it for me.   
   > >   
   > > I thought Firefly was great and might have drawn an audience if it had   
   > > been given another year to build that audience, but I can understand   
   > > why Fox didn't do that.   
   > >   
   > > >>By the way, if you liked the first 5 episodes of Buffy, it gets even   
   > > >>better.   
   > > >>It was a great show till the end of season 3 when many thought it started   
   > > >>going downhill.  Mostly because the show started out as a metaphor for   
   > > >>High   
   > > >>school.  Once they graduated they lost something.  Even the later seasons   
   > > >>probably play much better when you can binge watch at your own pace and   
   > > >>some   
   > > >>of the best episodes of the whole series were after season 3.   
   > > >   
   > > >I think the show-is-ametaphore-for-highschool theory is rather dubious,   
   > > >IMHO.   
   > > >I am guessing these are the same people who swear there's some sort of   
   > > >lesbian   
   > > >subcontext to Xena.   
   > > >   
   > > >I thought the show peaked with the Dark Willow story and was defintiely   
   > > >running   
   > > >on fumes the final season.   
   > >   
   > > I felt like it lost something as Joss moved on to working on Angel   
   > > most of the time and leaving Marti Noxon in charge. Marti loves her   
   > > dramas but she doesn't have the Joss touch.   
   >   
   > Actually I think Joss was more distracted by trying to get Firefly going   
   > than he was involved in Angel.   
   >   
   > And, yeah, Noxon destroyed Buffy; the demarcation line is when she   
   > ruined DRACULA, and things never recovered.   
      
   Yeah, I remember being rather hyped to see how Dracula was going to be   
   incorporated into the BUFFY mythos, and after the episode was over, I   
   recall thinking that it was the first time I actively disliked an   
   episode of the show.   
      
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