From: liam@valentijn.nu   
      
   Madlove schreef op 20-2-2015 om 04:14:   
   > On 02/19/2015 09:41 PM, Adam wrote:   
   >> Madlove  wrote:   
   >>> On 02/19/2015 03:22 AM, Vidcapper wrote:   
   >>>> On 18/02/2015 21:30, David wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>> Brendon's rep tells TMZ, "Nicholas is, unfortunately, battling a   
   >>>>> disease   
   >>>>> that many of us don't understand.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Very true - alcoholism is *not* a disease, it is simply a lack of   
   >>>> self-control!   
   >>>   
   >>> Calling it a "disease" helps to take responsibility off the addict. If   
   >>> alcoholism is a disease then why aren't heroin, tobacco, and cocaine   
   >>> addictions also "diseases".   
   >>>   
   >>> These days what isn't a "disease" that needs *expensive* treatment?   
   >>>   
   >>> 1. shopping "addiction"   
   >>> 2. sex "addiction"   
   >>> 3. TV "addiction"   
   >>> 4. porn "addiction"   
   >>> 5. internet "addiction"   
   >   
   >> I wasn't aware that you two were medical professionals.   
      
   I was wondering that too. :-)   
      
   >   
   > ---   
   >   
   > Alcoholism: A disease of speculation   
   >   
   > "In 1976, the writer Ivan Illich warned in the book, Limits to Medicine,   
   > that 'the medical establishment has become a major threat to health'. At   
   > the time, he was dismissed as a maverick, but a quarter of a century   
   > later, even the medical establishment is prepared to admit that he may   
   > well be right.   
   > (Anthony Browne, April 14, 2002, the Observer)"   
   >   
   > History and science have shown us that the existence of the disease of   
   > alcoholism is pure speculation. Just saying alcoholism is a disease,   
   > doesn't make it true.   
   >   
   > Nevertheless, medical professionals and American culture   
   > enthusiastically embraced the disease concept and quickly applied it to   
   > every possible behavior from alcohol abuse to compulsive lecturing and   
   > nail biting.   
   >   
   > The disease concept was a panacea for many failing medical institutions   
   > and pharmaceutical companies, adding billions of dollars to the industry   
   > and leading to a prompt evolution of pop-psychology.   
   >   
   > Research has shown that alcoholism is a choice, not a disease, and   
   > stripping alcohol abusers of their choice, by applying the disease   
   > concept, is a threat to the health of the individual.   
   >   
   > - See more at:   
   > http://www.baldwinresearch.com/alcoholism.cfm#sthash.KvUmHN7y.dpuf   
      
   There is a biological component.   
      
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addiction   
      
   Saying it 'is a choice' is extremely simplistic thinking.   
      
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