From: liam@valentijn.nu   
      
   Op 12-11-2016 om 01:08 schreef Madlove:   
   > On 11/11/2016 03:37 PM, Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >> Op 11-11-2016 om 05:30 schreef Madlove:   
   >>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >>>> Indeed. I think in the show they explained it that with only one at the   
   >>>> time she could be better controlled by the council.   
   >>>   
   >>> Madlove wrote:   
   >>>> Since when does the council have anything to do with who becomes a   
   >>>> Slayer?   
   >>>> They didn't make them, the Shadow Men did. And they did not control   
   >>>> Faith   
   >>>> very well.   
   >   
   >   
   >>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >>>> The Shadow Men were the forerunners of the Council.   
   >>>> The Council, as we knew them, were able to somehow find a certain   
   >>>> number   
   >>>> of the potentials. Whence located they would appoint a Watcher to train   
   >>>> the potential. Just in case that potential would be activated.   
   >>>> That didn't always work out.   
   >   
   >>> It also doesn't make sense. There are many potentials and training a   
   >>> select few   
   >>> in case one of them becomes a Slayer is ridiculous. You would have to   
   >>> train all of   
   >>> them since you don't know which girl would be activated. Unless they   
   >>> *were* training all (several hundred?) of them at once.   
   >   
   >> I think that must the case.   
   >> Kendra's training was a by the book example. The way the council liked   
   >> it.   
   >   
   >>> Also, how would you convince a girl she was special if she didn't have   
   >>> any powers?   
   >>> A strange man shows up and says that you are destined to become a   
   >>> Slayer??? He would be considered to be a nutter by the girls.   
   >   
   >> Well, yeah. Look at Buffy's reaction to Merrick.   
   >> But was that the norm?   
   >   
   >>> Far easier if the girl begins exhibiting paranormal skills and then you   
   >>> tell her what she really is. I think that's how they did it in the   
   >>> movie.   
   >   
   >> Except that before activation there were no obvious indications.   
   >   
   > So why would the girl believe the watcher wasn't some crazy guy?   
   >   
   >> In the movie there was this special birth mark.   
   >   
   > Wonder how they kept track of those? :-D   
      
   Creepy idea!   
      
   Secret network of informants?   
      
   >   
   >>> Madlove wrote:   
   >>>> And did they ever explain how the Watchers find the current Slayer?   
   >>>   
   >>> "David" wrote:   
   >>>> ***    This never was addressed. Possibly the Council's resident   
   >>>> Witch's Coven found them magically.   
   >>>   
   >>> Madlove wrote:   
   >>>> That was my thought, also. They would need magic to locate them.   
   >>>> And it's odd they couldn't handle a rogue Slayer like Faith since they   
   >>>> can use magic.   
   >   
   >>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:   
   >>>> Otoh... Wes wasn't a complete stranger to magic either... Maybe they   
   >>>> did learn some basic magic 101. But nowhere near the level of a coven.   
   >>>> Or Willow.   
   >>>   
   >>> The council must have been using magic to locate the Slayers, since they   
   >>> were magically enhanced. So they should've had enough magic to stop a   
   >>> bad Slayer.   
   >>>   
   >>> They were able to take down Angel (with a net) but Faith was able to   
   >>> escape within minutes because her feet weren't shackled. That was total   
   >>> rubbish! Why didn't they   
   >>> give her the poison they used on Buffy in "Helpless"???   
   >>   
   >> They were not exactly genius level intellects. :-)   
   >> And were not that big on field experience.   
   >> Remember how Wes was in the beginning? Not used to stuff outside   
   >> 'controlled circumstances' (or something like that).   
   >   
   > The woman watcher (Faith's) seemed more capable than Wes.   
      
   And corrupt to the bone.   
   I wonder how her original Watcher was like before she was murdered by   
   Kakistos.   
      
      
   >   
   > Madlove wrote:   
   >>>> Giles had no problem using it and there are other groups who can use   
   >>>> magic,   
   >>>> the council could have used their services. The Buffy saga is good but   
   >>>> there are many details left out.   
   >   
   >>> Giles was able to take on Willow when she went psycho, of course he also   
   >>> had help from Anya.   
   >   
   >> Err.. he got help from an English coven.   
   >   
   > Yep! And Anya was in the magic shop casting spells to counter Willow's   
   > spells.   
   > She was in hiding...   
      
   For good reason.   
      
      
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