From: liam@valentijn.nu   
      
   Op 31-7-2018 om 02:26 schreef Madlove:   
   > On 07/30/2018 07:14 AM, Marc Espie wrote:   
   >> In article , Madlove     
   >> wrote:   
   >>> However they said in season one that vamps and humans are two   
   >>> different entities. So there's no way Darla could want to be a vamp as   
   >>> it was a totally separate being and she wouldn't have its memories.   
   >   
   >> Nope, nope nope.   
   >>   
   >> You're not paying attention.   
   >>   
   >> That part of the lore is wide-spread, but not accurate.   
   >>   
   >> There's this piece of dialog where some character expounds this in front   
   >> of Angel, that the vampire is 100% different from the former human.   
   >>   
   >> And you really see Angel hesitate, start saying "actually..." (pause) and   
   >> finish "you're right".   
   >>   
   >> 100% unconvincing.  It's really obvious that Angel almost came clean, but   
   >> decided that this specific lie was to his advantage.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> [just looked it up, it's in dopplegangland]:   
   >>   
   >> Willow: It's horrible! That's me as a vampire? I'm so evil   
   >> and...skanky. And I think I'm kinda gay.   
   >> Buffy: Willow, just remember, a vampire's personality has nothing to   
   >> do with the person it was.   
   >> Angel: Well, actually... [Buffy gives him a look] That's a good point.   
   >   
   > I was thinking of that ep when I wrote that (it's one of the very best   
   > in the series, along with "The Wish") and what I'm talking about is   
   > vampire-to-human, while you're talking about human-to-vampire.   
   >   
   > 1. a human becomes a vamp: an evil spirit takes over their body, their   
   > general personality traits, and their basic memories. But the spirit   
   > adds monster elements.   
      
   Okay....   
      
   >   
   > 2. vamp becomes a human: girl is cloned from a vamp (which is a separate   
   > being) so should not have it's memories.   
      
      
   How do you figure that was /cloning/?   
   I figure actual Darla was brought back from being a dusted vampire into   
   her original human form, even including that syphilis she suffered from   
   before the Master sired her the first time..   
   And that vampire Darla already had all those memories and personality   
   etc. Why would she have lost all that from being dead?   
   When Buffy was brought back, she still had all her memories also.   
      
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