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   10 things about Angel that wouldn't fly    
   04 May 20 16:29:54   
   
   From: daviderl31@yahoo.com   
      
   https://screenrant.com/buffy-vampire-slayer-angel-character-never-fly-today/   
      
      
   Buffy the Vampire Slayer: 10 Things About Angel That Would Never Fly Today   
      
   Angel started out on Buffy the Vampire Slayer as a brooding, mysterious   
   vampire. But his dark past and stalker behavior don't work in today's   
   society.   
      
   BY LEAH FLAVELL   
   MAY 03, 2020   
      
   Angel was one of Buffy's primary love interests in Joss Whedon's Buffy the   
   Vampire Slayer. The vampire with a soul was portrayed as a dark and   
   mysterious figure who assisted the Scooby Gang and gave Buffy cryptic   
   warnings from the shadows about the evil entities in Sunnydale.   
      
   Buffy and Angel shared an epic and tragic romance before the vampire   
   departed the Hellmouth to forge a new life in his spin-off series, Angel.   
   Angel is a fan-favorite in the Buffyverse but there are problematic elements   
   to his character that wouldn't fly today.   
      
      
   10   
   The Age Difference Between Angel And Buffy   
      
   The vast age gap between Angel and Buffy is one of the more uncomfortable   
   aspects of their relationship. Buffy is 16 when she meets Angel in Season 1.   
   Angel was turned into a vampire when he was 24, though he is technically 241   
   years old when he starts a relationship with the Slayer.   
      
   Angel is older than Buffy as a human and a vampire. The drastic age   
   difference in their romance would never fly in today's era.   
      
      
   9   
   Stalking Buffy Before She Moved To Sunnydale   
      
   It is later revealed in the show that Angel's feelings for Buffy predate her   
   move to Sunnydale. The vampire with a soul first encountered the Slayer   
   while she attended school in Los Angeles, watching her from a distance as   
   she struggled with her new identity.   
      
   This makes the age difference between the couple more disturbing as Buffy   
   was even younger when Angel first decided he loved her. He continues to   
   stalk the Slayer after she moves to Sunnydale, though Buffy quickly   
   confronts him. Today's audiences have moved on from the dated, problematic   
   idea that stalking someone is romantic.   
      
      
   8   
   He Fell In Love With Buffy Before He Knew Her   
      
   Angel and Buffy's romance is widely regarded as a tragic tale of   
   star-crossed lovers. Like in Romeo & Juliet, Angel fell in love with the   
   Slayer at first sight, despite not knowing or ever speaking to her.   
      
   It could be argued that Angel loves the idea of Buffy as opposed to her   
   personally. Buffy represents his redemption and an opportunity to be a   
   better person. Loving someone because they can "fix" you isn't exactly   
   romantic by modern standards.   
      
      
   7   
   His Toxic Relationship With Buffy As Angelus   
      
   Buffy and Angel sleep together for the first time in Season 2. This has dire   
   consequences for the Scooby Gang as Angel loses his soul after experiencing   
   a moment of true happiness and reverts to the sadistic Angelus.   
      
   Angelus wastes no time tormenting Buffy and her friends. The evil vampire   
   attacks Buffy, murders Jenny Calendar, and almost kills the Slayer in an   
   epic duel before he is re-souled. This toxic element of Angel's relationship   
   with Buffy would likely be considered inappropriate by modern audiences.   
      
      
   6   
   Making Decisions For Buffy & Taking Control Of Their Relationship   
      
   Angel could be overbearing during his relationship with Buffy. He recognized   
   he was toxic for Buffy, yet continued to stay with her. When he departed   
   from the series in the Season 3 finale, it was after he dumped Buffy during   
   the Mayor's Ascension without saying goodbye.   
      
   Angel meant well, but he chose the worst moments to break up with Buffy. The   
   vampire disregarded Buffy's choices and tried to make her decisions for her,   
   believing he knew what was best. Not cool in the 21st century.   
      
      
   5   
   His Treatment Of Drusilla   
      
   Angel committed countless acts of atrocity during his days as the soulless   
   Angelus. One of his most deplorable crimes is his torment of Drusilla. The   
   vampire stalks Dru, murdering her family before driving her to a convent   
   where he continues to torment her.   
      
   Angelus eventually turns Drusilla into a vampire after driving her to   
   insanity. He does this to ensure she suffers for eternity as an immortal,   
   demonstrating toxic and abusive elements that many of today's viewers   
   wouldn't be able to get past, especially for a romantic lead.   
      
      
   4   
   Buffy Didn't Trust Him During The Beginning Of Their Relationship   
      
   Buffy admits in Season 2 that she doesn't trust Angel, despite her romantic   
   feelings for him. Angel has a soul but he is still a vampire, Buffy's mortal   
   enemy. Buffy is wary of her boyfriend, and with good reason.   
      
   She herself recognizes the problematic elements of her relationship with   
   Angel. Her distrust of him is a red flag that would not go ignored by   
   viewers nowadays.   
      
      
   3   
   His Bloody History As Angelus   
      
   Angel is regarded as one of the good guys in Buffy The Vampire Slayer, but   
   he still has a bloody history. As Angelus, Angel killed and tortured   
   hundreds of people. The evil vampire has a notorious reputation for being   
   one of the most despicable killers in vampire history.   
      
   Angel tries to atone for his actions after he is re-souled and spends his   
   time throughout Buffy and Angel seeking redemption for his past.   
   Nevertheless, this is another unsavory part of Angel's story that wouldn't   
   fly today.   
      
      
   2   
   Murdering His Family   
      
   One of the worst crimes Angelus committed was the murder of his family.   
   Angel, originally known as Liam, awoke as a vampire and under the tutelage   
   of his sire Darla, viciously killed his younger sister and his parents.   
      
   Angel's history is littered with murder and loss. This bloody history of   
   familicide is another reason why his relationship with Buffy could be   
   considered toxic by modern standards.   
      
      
   1   
   His Creepy Introduction In Season 1   
      
   Angel first appears in Buffy The Vampire Slayer as a mysterious figure who   
   stalks Buffy and sporadically offers her ominous advice. Buffy herself   
   comments on the creepiness of Angel's presence, despite the instant   
   chemistry between them.   
      
   Angel's enigmatic entrance in the narrative portrayed him as a tall, dark,   
   and handsome love interest for the Slayer. Nowadays, however, his unsettling   
   presence and cryptic warnings would be off-putting for a lot of viewers.   
      
      
           [ I have to disagree with # 1 - 10. Stuff on some of today's shows   
   are much worse than what went on with Buffy and Angel/Angelus.   
       But maybe I'm looking at everything from a man's perspective, and the   
   author is looking at things from a 'modern' woman's perspective.]   
      
   David   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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