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|    10 questions about the Initiative (plus     |
|    19 Jul 21 18:18:09    |
      [continued from previous message]              have any plans to intervene if they got too close to an apocalypse? Since       they did not know about Buffy, they had to assume no one else was going to       stop them. Perhaps they had no idea of anything outside the UC Sunnydale       sphere, but that is just silly.              3       Where Was The Initiative During The Apocalypses After Season 4?              Season 4 started and also essentially concluded the Initiative story arc.       The U.S. government determined the experiment was a failure and walked away.       After Buffy and Riley's painful breakup in season 5, Riley also walked away.       However, in season 6, he returned with an Initiative-adjacent group and in       season 7 the government returned to the old Initiative base to assist Buffy.              So, the government continued dabbling with and responding to the       supernatural, which leaves fans wondering why they never came to Buffy’s aid       during any of the apocalyptic events occurring before season 4. Narratively,       this would not have worked for Buffy’s story, but logistically it is hard to       believe that the government relied on one Slayer to repeatedly save the       world, even if it was Buffy.                     2       How Did The Scoobies Never Encounter The Initiative Prior To Season 4?              As much as fans wondered how the Initiative could not have known the Slayer       was real, many also question how the Scooby gang never encountered the       commandos before season 4. Once the Initiative plot began, it was not long       before Buffy figured out what was going on.              Episodes like “Hush” even directly showed Initiative soldiers patrolling       downtown Sunnydale, which is often frequented by the Scoobies. Yes, the       Initiative was tucked away under UC Sunnydale, which the show treats almost       like a separate community from the town. Still, it seems highly unlikely       that the Scoobies never saw the Initiative in action earlier.              1       Were There Other Initiative Bases At The Other Hellmouths?              Throughout Buffy’s seven seasons, there have been multiple mentions of at       least one other Hellmouth in Cleveland. Giles even stated this again in the       series finale after the Sunnydale Hellmouth closed, and the season 7 episode       “Never Leave Me,” also showed a map that had all the other Hellmouths       around       the world.              Given the Initiative’s overall mission, there is reason to question if they       had facilities at any of these other locations. The end of season 4 appeared       to fully sever government involvement with the supernatural, but seasons 5,       6, and 7 proved that to be untrue, so the question remains.                      [[MY question -- how was the Initiative able to excavate such a huge       underground facility without anyone attending the college knowing about       it?]]                     David              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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