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|    John Doe to Ubiquitous    |
|    Re: Obama's Ugly Closing Argument - Will    |
|    15 Oct 24 13:29:05    |
      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.elections, alt.politics.obama       XPost: alt.politics.usa       From: NoOne@private.corp              On 10/11/2024 8:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:       > Worried that the presidential race may be slipping away from them, Democrats       > now express contempt for the people whose votes they need to win in November.       > Especially annoying to the party’s leadership is that they have to try to       > persuade Pennsylvanians. On Tuesday vice presidential candidate Gov. Tim Walz       > (D., Minn.) lamented to wealthy California donors that their party has to win       > votes in Western Pennsylvania’s Beaver County, and also persuade people in       > York, in the eastern half of the Keystone State. To diminish the power of       > such voters, Mr. Walz wants to get rid of the Constitution’s Electoral       > College. Now former President Barack Obama has arrived in Pittsburgh to scold       > some of the locals for not supporting current Vice President Kamala Harris.       >       > Mr. Obama is now employing the rhetorical tactics he once used against       > congressional Republicans to attempt to shame voters into obeying his       > political instruction. Mr. Obama’s oratory has always been much more       refined       > than that of either of his presidential successors—but at least as nasty.       The       > standard Obama approach is to assume that no one could possibly have an       > informed and honest disagreement with him and therefore his opponents must be       > ignorant or driven by concealed base motives.       >       > Gregory Krieg, Edward-Isaac Dovere and Eva McKend report for CNN:       >       > Former President Barack Obama on Thursday admonished Black men who       > are hesitating to back Vice President Kamala Harris’ presidential       > campaign, telling them it’s “not acceptable” to sit out this       election       > and suggesting they might be reluctant to vote for Harris because       she’s       > a woman.       >       > The striking comments by Obama, made to a small group of voters in a       > surprise stop at a local Harris campaign office in Pittsburgh, were       > part of a more forceful campaign message delivered by the former       > president on Thursday as polls continue to show a neck-and-neck race.       > At a rally in the city later that evening, Obama issued some of his       > most searing public criticisms of his successor to date.       >       > The lack of energy some see around Harris’ campaign, Obama first told       > the smaller group, “seems to be more pronounced with the brothers.”       >       > Mr. Obama then launched a fact-free attack on their motivations. CNN reports:       >       > “You’re coming up with all kinds of reasons and excuses, I’ve       got a       > problem with that,” Obama said. “Because part of it makes me think       –       > and I’m speaking to men directly – part of it makes me think that,       > well, you just aren’t feeling the idea of having a woman as       president,       > and you’re coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for       > that.”       >       > The vice president’s significant role in creating a 40-year-high in       inflation       > that ravaged incomes isn’t a legitimate reason to oppose her? And of course       > there are many other legitimate reasons to find fault with the incumbent vice       > president in a world in crisis. Emma Bowman at National Public Radio has more       > on Mr. Obama’s insults to Pennsylvanians:       >       > “On the one hand, you have somebody who grew up like you, knows you,       > went to college with you, understands the struggles and pain and joy       > that comes from those experiences,” adding that Harris, who is Black       > and Asian American, is focused on policy that will benefit Black       > communities, such as affordable housing and health care. “And on the       > other side, you have someone who has consistently shown disregard, not       > just for the communities, but for you as a person.”       >       > Maybe voters of all backgrounds have had just about all the Biden-Harris       > “affordability” they can stand and are nostalgic about the real income       gains       > of the Trump era.       >       > It’s also very possible that Pennsylvania voters of all backgrounds don’t       > think their communities will be well served by Ms. Harris, a San Francisco       > leftist who has backed seemingly every zany idea favored by those California       > donors, and then some.       >       > Regardless, it’s up to the voters to decide which candidates are most       likely       > to enable prosperity. Maybe Mr. Walz and Mr. Obama should try winning over       > these voters, rather than trying to reduce their electoral power or tossing       > them into a 2024 version of Hillary Clinton’s “basket of deplorables.”       >       > These days that basket is looking more and more like a broad, multiracial       > coalition.       >       > As for the Democrats, the country desperately needs Mr. Obama and his party       > to turn away from the poisonous ideological mindset which holds that every       > setback for their political agenda represents a failure of our form of       > government or our people.              I personally can't imagine voting for Trump's stated plan of jailing the       people who have criticized him. He's no longer using statements like       Nazi Germany, he's virtually quoting them now. That should disturb       patriots in every party.       >       > --              >              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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