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   Message 144 of 348   
   John Doe to Ubiquitous   
   Re: What Walz Is Telling West Coast Dono   
   15 Oct 24 13:30:22   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa   
   XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution   
   From: NoOne@private.corp   
      
   On 10/11/2024 8:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   > The crowd that keeps telling us Donald Trump is the greatest threat to our   
   > form of government is still advocating radical changes to our form of   
   > government. Vice President Kamala Harris and her running mate, Gov. Tim Walz   
   > (D., Minn.), aim to circumscribe the liberties of our Constitution’s First   
   > Amendment. The Harris-Walz campaign also calls for restructuring the Supreme   
   > Court and taking federal control over elections that are now run by states.   
   > Now Mr. Walz is telling wealthy West Coast donors how much he opposes the   
   > method of electing U.S. presidents that was created by our nation’s   
   Founders.   
   >   
   > Aaron Pellish reports for CNN:   
   >   
   >       Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said the Electoral College “needs to go,”   
   while   
   >       acknowledging “that’s not the world we live in,” during a   
   campaign   
   >       fundraiser in California on Tuesday, according to a pool report.   
   >   
   >       “I think all of us know the Electoral College needs to go. We need,   
   we   
   >       need national popular vote, but that’s not the world we live in. So   
   we   
   >       need to win Beaver County, Pennsylvania. We need to be able to go into   
   >       York, Pennsylvania, win. We need to be in western Wisconsin and win. We   
   >       need to be in Reno, Nevada, and win,” the Democratic vice   
   presidential   
   >       nominee told supporters gathered at Gov. Gavin Newsom’s private   
   >       residence in Sacramento, according to the pool report.   
   >   
   >       Walz’s call for eliminating the Electoral College is not an official   
   >       campaign position, a Harris campaign official told CNN.   
   >   
   > Maybe it’s not exactly official, but voters have every reason to be   
   > skeptical. Mr. Pellish notes:   
   >   
   >       Vice President Kamala Harris has previously expressed openness to   
   >       eliminating the Electoral College. During a 2019 interview on “Jimmy   
   >       Kimmel Live,” Harris, who was running for president at the time, said   
   >       she was “open to the discussion” of abolishing the Electoral   
   College.   
   >   
   > As for Mr. Walz, this wasn’t the self-described “knucklehead” with a   
   one-off   
   > case of “misspeaking,” as his campaign likes to describe moments when he   
   says   
   > things that aren’t true. There is definitely a pattern here. Rebecca   
   O’Brien   
   > and Reid Epstein report for the New York Times:   
   >   
   >       Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota on Tuesday called for abolishing the   
   >       Electoral College as a means of electing American presidents,   
   >       reiterating a position he has articulated in the past while he and Vice   
   >       President Kamala Harris are in the heat of a campaign for the White   
   >       House.   
   >   
   > According to the Times account, the Newsom residence was not the only place   
   > he was selling this message:   
   >   
   >       Earlier Tuesday, at a different fund-raising event in Seattle, Mr.   
   >       Walz called himself “a national popular vote guy, but that’s not   
   the   
   >       world we live in.”   
   >   
   > No it’s not, thank goodness, but he has neatly summed up the problem with   
   the   
   > current Democratic Party and the Harris campaign. In fact, he is its living   
   > embodiment. Rather than trying to win over moderate voters in Pennsylvania by   
   > selecting the Keystone State’s popular governor, Josh Shapiro, as her   
   running   
   > mate, Kamala Harris chose Mr. Walz, who speaks kindly of socialism.   
   >   
   > This is a principal reason for our divisive politics. Rather than nominating   
   > a Midwestern governor like Michigan’s Gretchen Whitmer and giving   
   themselves   
   > a better shot at competing in western Wisconsin, Democrats anointed Vice   
   > President Harris, a San Francisco leftist. Now, instead of happily accepting   
   > the reasonable assignment of trying to win over people in all parts of the   
   > country, her running mate is telling wealthy California donors that they   
   > should reduce the political power of people who live in places like Beaver   
   > County, Pa. Here’s an idea: Why not moderate your positions and compete for   
   > votes outside Gavin Newsom’s friend group?   
   >   
   > Our brilliant Founders, who created the greatest, most prosperous nation in   
   > the history of the world, probably didn’t specifically envision the virtue   
   of   
   > making kooky Californians try to compete for votes in York, Pa and Reno, Nev.   
   > But one of the main reasons the Founders created the Electoral College and   
   > representative government was because they knew from their study of history   
   > that pure, direct democracy had a tendency to abuse the rights of the   
   > minority.   
   >   
   > Seeing the Democratic ticket express hostility to both our free-speech rights   
   > and a principal mechanism to protect them looks like yet another vindication   
   > for the authors of our Constitution. Maybe Kamala Harris and Tim Walz should   
   > consider reading them.   
   >   
      
   Really? Trump is advocating shutting down entire networks because he   
   didn't like something they said.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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