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|    John Doe to Ubiquitous    |
|    Re: What Walz Is Telling West Coast Dono    |
|    15 Oct 24 13:30:22    |
      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa       XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution       From: NoOne@private.corp              On 10/11/2024 8:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:       > The crowd that keeps telling us Donald Trump is the greatest threat to our       > form of government is still advocating radical changes to our form of       > government. Vice President Kamala Harris and her running mate, Gov. Tim Walz       > (D., Minn.), aim to circumscribe the liberties of our Constitution’s First       > Amendment. The Harris-Walz campaign also calls for restructuring the Supreme       > Court and taking federal control over elections that are now run by states.       > Now Mr. Walz is telling wealthy West Coast donors how much he opposes the       > method of electing U.S. presidents that was created by our nation’s       Founders.       >       > Aaron Pellish reports for CNN:       >       > Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said the Electoral College “needs to go,”       while       > acknowledging “that’s not the world we live in,” during a       campaign       > fundraiser in California on Tuesday, according to a pool report.       >       > “I think all of us know the Electoral College needs to go. We need,       we       > need national popular vote, but that’s not the world we live in. So       we       > need to win Beaver County, Pennsylvania. We need to be able to go into       > York, Pennsylvania, win. We need to be in western Wisconsin and win. We       > need to be in Reno, Nevada, and win,” the Democratic vice       presidential       > nominee told supporters gathered at Gov. Gavin Newsom’s private       > residence in Sacramento, according to the pool report.       >       > Walz’s call for eliminating the Electoral College is not an official       > campaign position, a Harris campaign official told CNN.       >       > Maybe it’s not exactly official, but voters have every reason to be       > skeptical. Mr. Pellish notes:       >       > Vice President Kamala Harris has previously expressed openness to       > eliminating the Electoral College. During a 2019 interview on “Jimmy       > Kimmel Live,” Harris, who was running for president at the time, said       > she was “open to the discussion” of abolishing the Electoral       College.       >       > As for Mr. Walz, this wasn’t the self-described “knucklehead” with a       one-off       > case of “misspeaking,” as his campaign likes to describe moments when he       says       > things that aren’t true. There is definitely a pattern here. Rebecca       O’Brien       > and Reid Epstein report for the New York Times:       >       > Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota on Tuesday called for abolishing the       > Electoral College as a means of electing American presidents,       > reiterating a position he has articulated in the past while he and Vice       > President Kamala Harris are in the heat of a campaign for the White       > House.       >       > According to the Times account, the Newsom residence was not the only place       > he was selling this message:       >       > Earlier Tuesday, at a different fund-raising event in Seattle, Mr.       > Walz called himself “a national popular vote guy, but that’s not       the       > world we live in.”       >       > No it’s not, thank goodness, but he has neatly summed up the problem with       the       > current Democratic Party and the Harris campaign. In fact, he is its living       > embodiment. Rather than trying to win over moderate voters in Pennsylvania by       > selecting the Keystone State’s popular governor, Josh Shapiro, as her       running       > mate, Kamala Harris chose Mr. Walz, who speaks kindly of socialism.       >       > This is a principal reason for our divisive politics. Rather than nominating       > a Midwestern governor like Michigan’s Gretchen Whitmer and giving       themselves       > a better shot at competing in western Wisconsin, Democrats anointed Vice       > President Harris, a San Francisco leftist. Now, instead of happily accepting       > the reasonable assignment of trying to win over people in all parts of the       > country, her running mate is telling wealthy California donors that they       > should reduce the political power of people who live in places like Beaver       > County, Pa. Here’s an idea: Why not moderate your positions and compete for       > votes outside Gavin Newsom’s friend group?       >       > Our brilliant Founders, who created the greatest, most prosperous nation in       > the history of the world, probably didn’t specifically envision the virtue       of       > making kooky Californians try to compete for votes in York, Pa and Reno, Nev.       > But one of the main reasons the Founders created the Electoral College and       > representative government was because they knew from their study of history       > that pure, direct democracy had a tendency to abuse the rights of the       > minority.       >       > Seeing the Democratic ticket express hostility to both our free-speech rights       > and a principal mechanism to protect them looks like yet another vindication       > for the authors of our Constitution. Maybe Kamala Harris and Tim Walz should       > consider reading them.       >              Really? Trump is advocating shutting down entire networks because he       didn't like something they said.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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