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   From: skeeterweed@photonmail.com   
      
   In article <_yQPO.13137$Vuz4.920@fx08.iad>, katt@gmail.com says...   
   >   
   > On 10/16/2024 3:43 AM, NoBody wrote:   
   > > On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:29:05 -0600, John Doe    
   > > wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> On 10/11/2024 8:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   > >>> Worried that the presidential race may be slipping away from them,   
   Democrats   
   > >>> now express contempt for the people whose votes they need to win in   
   November.   
   > >>> Especially annoying to the party?s leadership is that they have to try to   
   > >>> persuade Pennsylvanians. On Tuesday vice presidential candidate Gov. Tim   
   Walz   
   > >>> (D., Minn.) lamented to wealthy California donors that their party has   
   to win   
   > >>> votes in Western Pennsylvania?s Beaver County, and also persuade people   
   in   
   > >>> York, in the eastern half of the Keystone State. To diminish the power of   
   > >>> such voters, Mr. Walz wants to get rid of the Constitution?s Electoral   
   > >>> College. Now former President Barack Obama has arrived in Pittsburgh to   
   scold   
   > >>> some of the locals for not supporting current Vice President Kamala   
   Harris.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Mr. Obama is now employing the rhetorical tactics he once used against   
   > >>> congressional Republicans to attempt to shame voters into obeying his   
   > >>> political instruction. Mr. Obama?s oratory has always been much more   
   refined   
   > >>> than that of either of his presidential successors?but at least as   
   nasty. The   
   > >>> standard Obama approach is to assume that no one could possibly have an   
   > >>> informed and honest disagreement with him and therefore his opponents   
   must be   
   > >>> ignorant or driven by concealed base motives.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Gregory Krieg, Edward-Isaac Dovere and Eva McKend report for CNN:   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Former President Barack Obama on Thursday admonished Black men who   
   > >>> are hesitating to back Vice President Kamala Harris? presidential   
   > >>> campaign, telling them it?s ?not acceptable? to sit out this   
   election   
   > >>> and suggesting they might be reluctant to vote for Harris because   
   she?s   
   > >>> a woman.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> The striking comments by Obama, made to a small group of voters   
   in a   
   > >>> surprise stop at a local Harris campaign office in Pittsburgh,   
   were   
   > >>> part of a more forceful campaign message delivered by the former   
   > >>> president on Thursday as polls continue to show a neck-and-neck   
   race.   
   > >>> At a rally in the city later that evening, Obama issued some of   
   his   
   > >>> most searing public criticisms of his successor to date.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> The lack of energy some see around Harris? campaign, Obama first   
   told   
   > >>> the smaller group, ?seems to be more pronounced with the   
   brothers.?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Mr. Obama then launched a fact-free attack on their motivations. CNN   
   reports:   
   > >>>   
   > >>> ?You?re coming up with all kinds of reasons and excuses, I?ve got   
   a   
   > >>> problem with that,? Obama said. ?Because part of it makes me   
   think ?   
   > >>> and I?m speaking to men directly ? part of it makes me think that,   
   > >>> well, you just aren?t feeling the idea of having a woman as   
   president,   
   > >>> and you?re coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for   
   > >>> that.?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> The vice president?s significant role in creating a 40-year-high in   
   inflation   
   > >>> that ravaged incomes isn?t a legitimate reason to oppose her? And of   
   course   
   > >>> there are many other legitimate reasons to find fault with the incumbent   
   vice   
   > >>> president in a world in crisis. Emma Bowman at National Public Radio has   
   more   
   > >>> on Mr. Obama?s insults to Pennsylvanians:   
   > >>>   
   > >>> ?On the one hand, you have somebody who grew up like you, knows   
   you,   
   > >>> went to college with you, understands the struggles and pain and   
   joy   
   > >>> that comes from those experiences,? adding that Harris, who is   
   Black   
   > >>> and Asian American, is focused on policy that will benefit Black   
   > >>> communities, such as affordable housing and health care. ?And on   
   the   
   > >>> other side, you have someone who has consistently shown   
   disregard, not   
   > >>> just for the communities, but for you as a person.?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Maybe voters of all backgrounds have had just about all the Biden-Harris   
   > >>> ?affordability? they can stand and are nostalgic about the real income   
   gains   
   > >>> of the Trump era.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> It?s also very possible that Pennsylvania voters of all backgrounds don?t   
   > >>> think their communities will be well served by Ms. Harris, a San   
   Francisco   
   > >>> leftist who has backed seemingly every zany idea favored by those   
   California   
   > >>> donors, and then some.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Regardless, it?s up to the voters to decide which candidates are most   
   likely   
   > >>> to enable prosperity. Maybe Mr. Walz and Mr. Obama should try winning   
   over   
   > >>> these voters, rather than trying to reduce their electoral power or   
   tossing   
   > >>> them into a 2024 version of Hillary Clinton?s ?basket of deplorables.?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> These days that basket is looking more and more like a broad, multiracial   
   > >>> coalition.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> As for the Democrats, the country desperately needs Mr. Obama and his   
   party   
   > >>> to turn away from the poisonous ideological mindset which holds that   
   every   
   > >>> setback for their political agenda represents a failure of our form of   
   > >>> government or our people.   
   > >>   
   > >> I personally can't imagine voting for Trump's stated plan of jailing the   
   > >> people who have criticized him. He's no longer using statements like   
   > >> Nazi Germany, he's virtually quoting them now. That should disturb   
   > >> patriots in every party.   
   > >>>   
   > >   
   > > Citation required.   
   >   
   > "I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some   
   very bad   
   > people. We have some sick people. Radical left lunatics. I think it   
   should be   
   > very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really   
   > necessary, by the military, because they can?t let that happen."   
   >   
   > https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/trump-military-enemy-f   
   om-within-election-day/index.html   
   >   
   >   
   > Over the weekend, Donald Trump crystalized his authoritarian vision for   
   the   
   > nation when he suggested siccing the military on his political opponents   
   and   
   > American citizens to destroy the ?enemy from within.? Despite the former   
      
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