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   XPost: alt.politics.usa   
   From: NoBody@nowhere.com   
      
   On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 08:01:14 -0700, pothead  wrote:   
      
   >On 10/16/2024 3:43 AM, NoBody wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:29:05 -0600, John Doe    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 10/11/2024 8:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   >>>> Worried that the presidential race may be slipping away from them,   
   Democrats   
   >>>> now express contempt for the people whose votes they need to win in   
   November.   
   >>>> Especially annoying to the party’s leadership is that they have to try to   
   >>>> persuade Pennsylvanians. On Tuesday vice presidential candidate Gov. Tim   
   Walz   
   >>>> (D., Minn.) lamented to wealthy California donors that their party has to   
   win   
   >>>> votes in Western Pennsylvania’s Beaver County, and also persuade people in   
   >>>> York, in the eastern half of the Keystone State. To diminish the power of   
   >>>> such voters, Mr. Walz wants to get rid of the Constitution’s Electoral   
   >>>> College. Now former President Barack Obama has arrived in Pittsburgh to   
   scold   
   >>>> some of the locals for not supporting current Vice President Kamala   
   Harris.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Mr. Obama is now employing the rhetorical tactics he once used against   
   >>>> congressional Republicans to attempt to shame voters into obeying his   
   >>>> political instruction. Mr. Obama’s oratory has always been much more   
   refined   
   >>>> than that of either of his presidential successors—but at least as nasty.   
   The   
   >>>> standard Obama approach is to assume that no one could possibly have an   
   >>>> informed and honest disagreement with him and therefore his opponents   
   must be   
   >>>> ignorant or driven by concealed base motives.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Gregory Krieg, Edward-Isaac Dovere and Eva McKend report for CNN:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>        Former President Barack Obama on Thursday admonished Black men who   
   >>>>        are hesitating to back Vice President Kamala Harris’ presidential   
   >>>>        campaign, telling them it’s “not acceptable” to sit out this   
   election   
   >>>>        and suggesting they might be reluctant to vote for Harris because   
   she’s   
   >>>>        a woman.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>        The striking comments by Obama, made to a small group of voters in   
   a   
   >>>>        surprise stop at a local Harris campaign office in Pittsburgh, were   
   >>>>        part of a more forceful campaign message delivered by the former   
   >>>>        president on Thursday as polls continue to show a neck-and-neck   
   race.   
   >>>>        At a rally in the city later that evening, Obama issued some of his   
   >>>>        most searing public criticisms of his successor to date.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>        The lack of energy some see around Harris’ campaign, Obama first   
   told   
   >>>>        the smaller group, “seems to be more pronounced with the brothers.”   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Mr. Obama then launched a fact-free attack on their motivations. CNN   
   reports:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>        “You’re coming up with all kinds of reasons and excuses, I’ve got a   
   >>>>        problem with that,” Obama said. “Because part of it makes me think   
   –   
   >>>>        and I’m speaking to men directly – part of it makes me think that,   
   >>>>        well, you just aren’t feeling the idea of having a woman as   
   president,   
   >>>>        and you’re coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for   
   >>>>        that.”   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The vice president’s significant role in creating a 40-year-high in   
   inflation   
   >>>> that ravaged incomes isn’t a legitimate reason to oppose her? And of   
   course   
   >>>> there are many other legitimate reasons to find fault with the incumbent   
   vice   
   >>>> president in a world in crisis. Emma Bowman at National Public Radio has   
   more   
   >>>> on Mr. Obama’s insults to Pennsylvanians:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>        “On the one hand, you have somebody who grew up like you, knows   
   you,   
   >>>>        went to college with you, understands the struggles and pain and   
   joy   
   >>>>        that comes from those experiences,” adding that Harris, who is   
   Black   
   >>>>        and Asian American, is focused on policy that will benefit Black   
   >>>>        communities, such as affordable housing and health care. “And on   
   the   
   >>>>        other side, you have someone who has consistently shown disregard,   
   not   
   >>>>        just for the communities, but for you as a person.”   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Maybe voters of all backgrounds have had just about all the Biden-Harris   
   >>>> “affordability” they can stand and are nostalgic about the real income   
   gains   
   >>>> of the Trump era.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It’s also very possible that Pennsylvania voters of all backgrounds don’t   
   >>>> think their communities will be well served by Ms. Harris, a San Francisco   
   >>>> leftist who has backed seemingly every zany idea favored by those   
   California   
   >>>> donors, and then some.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Regardless, it’s up to the voters to decide which candidates are most   
   likely   
   >>>> to enable prosperity. Maybe Mr. Walz and Mr. Obama should try winning over   
   >>>> these voters, rather than trying to reduce their electoral power or   
   tossing   
   >>>> them into a 2024 version of Hillary Clinton’s “basket of deplorables.”   
   >>>>   
   >>>> These days that basket is looking more and more like a broad, multiracial   
   >>>> coalition.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> As for the Democrats, the country desperately needs Mr. Obama and his   
   party   
   >>>> to turn away from the poisonous ideological mindset which holds that every   
   >>>> setback for their political agenda represents a failure of our form of   
   >>>> government or our people.   
   >>>   
   >>> I personally can't imagine voting for Trump's stated plan of jailing the   
   >>> people who have criticized him. He's no longer using statements like   
   >>> Nazi Germany, he's virtually quoting them now. That should disturb   
   >>> patriots in every party.   
   >>>>   
   >>   
   >> Citation required.   
   >   
   >    "I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very   
   bad   
   >    people. We have some sick people. Radical left lunatics. I think it   
   should be   
   >    very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really   
   >    necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen."   
   >   
   >https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/trump-military-enemy-fr   
   m-within-election-day/index.html   
      
   This does not support your claim.  His statement is law enforcement   
   101.  When libs riot out of control, the are procedures in place to   
   address them up to and including military forces.  This should not be   
   news to you.   
      
      
   The rest your nonsense is snipped since it just repeats the above   
   which is insufficient.   
      
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