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   XPost: alt.politics.usa   
   From: NoBody@nowhere.com   
      
   On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 06:43:42 -0400, NoBody wrote:   
      
   >On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:29:05 -0600, John Doe    
   >wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 10/11/2024 8:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   >>> Worried that the presidential race may be slipping away from them,   
   Democrats   
   >>> now express contempt for the people whose votes they need to win in   
   November.   
   >>> Especially annoying to the party’s leadership is that they have to try to   
   >>> persuade Pennsylvanians. On Tuesday vice presidential candidate Gov. Tim   
   Walz   
   >>> (D., Minn.) lamented to wealthy California donors that their party has to   
   win   
   >>> votes in Western Pennsylvania’s Beaver County, and also persuade people in   
   >>> York, in the eastern half of the Keystone State. To diminish the power of   
   >>> such voters, Mr. Walz wants to get rid of the Constitution’s Electoral   
   >>> College. Now former President Barack Obama has arrived in Pittsburgh to   
   scold   
   >>> some of the locals for not supporting current Vice President Kamala Harris.   
   >>>   
   >>> Mr. Obama is now employing the rhetorical tactics he once used against   
   >>> congressional Republicans to attempt to shame voters into obeying his   
   >>> political instruction. Mr. Obama’s oratory has always been much more   
   refined   
   >>> than that of either of his presidential successors—but at least as nasty.   
   The   
   >>> standard Obama approach is to assume that no one could possibly have an   
   >>> informed and honest disagreement with him and therefore his opponents must   
   be   
   >>> ignorant or driven by concealed base motives.   
   >>>   
   >>> Gregory Krieg, Edward-Isaac Dovere and Eva McKend report for CNN:   
   >>>   
   >>> Former President Barack Obama on Thursday admonished Black men who   
   >>> are hesitating to back Vice President Kamala Harris’ presidential   
   >>> campaign, telling them it’s “not acceptable” to sit out this election   
   >>> and suggesting they might be reluctant to vote for Harris because   
   she’s   
   >>> a woman.   
   >>>   
   >>> The striking comments by Obama, made to a small group of voters in a   
   >>> surprise stop at a local Harris campaign office in Pittsburgh, were   
   >>> part of a more forceful campaign message delivered by the former   
   >>> president on Thursday as polls continue to show a neck-and-neck race.   
   >>> At a rally in the city later that evening, Obama issued some of his   
   >>> most searing public criticisms of his successor to date.   
   >>>   
   >>> The lack of energy some see around Harris’ campaign, Obama first told   
   >>> the smaller group, “seems to be more pronounced with the brothers.”   
   >>>   
   >>> Mr. Obama then launched a fact-free attack on their motivations. CNN   
   reports:   
   >>>   
   >>> “You’re coming up with all kinds of reasons and excuses, I’ve got a   
   >>> problem with that,” Obama said. “Because part of it makes me think –   
   >>> and I’m speaking to men directly – part of it makes me think that,   
   >>> well, you just aren’t feeling the idea of having a woman as   
   president,   
   >>> and you’re coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for   
   >>> that.”   
   >>>   
   >>> The vice president’s significant role in creating a 40-year-high in   
   inflation   
   >>> that ravaged incomes isn’t a legitimate reason to oppose her? And of course   
   >>> there are many other legitimate reasons to find fault with the incumbent   
   vice   
   >>> president in a world in crisis. Emma Bowman at National Public Radio has   
   more   
   >>> on Mr. Obama’s insults to Pennsylvanians:   
   >>>   
   >>> “On the one hand, you have somebody who grew up like you, knows you,   
   >>> went to college with you, understands the struggles and pain and joy   
   >>> that comes from those experiences,” adding that Harris, who is Black   
   >>> and Asian American, is focused on policy that will benefit Black   
   >>> communities, such as affordable housing and health care. “And on the   
   >>> other side, you have someone who has consistently shown disregard,   
   not   
   >>> just for the communities, but for you as a person.”   
   >>>   
   >>> Maybe voters of all backgrounds have had just about all the Biden-Harris   
   >>> “affordability” they can stand and are nostalgic about the real income   
   gains   
   >>> of the Trump era.   
   >>>   
   >>> It’s also very possible that Pennsylvania voters of all backgrounds don’t   
   >>> think their communities will be well served by Ms. Harris, a San Francisco   
   >>> leftist who has backed seemingly every zany idea favored by those   
   California   
   >>> donors, and then some.   
   >>>   
   >>> Regardless, it’s up to the voters to decide which candidates are most   
   likely   
   >>> to enable prosperity. Maybe Mr. Walz and Mr. Obama should try winning over   
   >>> these voters, rather than trying to reduce their electoral power or tossing   
   >>> them into a 2024 version of Hillary Clinton’s “basket of deplorables.”   
   >>>   
   >>> These days that basket is looking more and more like a broad, multiracial   
   >>> coalition.   
   >>>   
   >>> As for the Democrats, the country desperately needs Mr. Obama and his party   
   >>> to turn away from the poisonous ideological mindset which holds that every   
   >>> setback for their political agenda represents a failure of our form of   
   >>> government or our people.   
   >>   
   >>I personally can't imagine voting for Trump's stated plan of jailing the   
   >>people who have criticized him. He's no longer using statements like   
   >>Nazi Germany, he's virtually quoting them now. That should disturb   
   >>patriots in every party.   
   >>>   
   >   
   >Citation required.   
   >>> --   
   >>   
   >>>   
      
      
      
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