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   Message 166 of 348   
   Skeeter to All   
   Re: Obama's Ugly Closing Argument - Will   
   17 Oct 24 14:36:53   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.elections, alt.politics.obama   
   XPost: alt.politics.usa   
   From: skeeterweed@photonmail.com   
      
   In article , katt@gmail.com says...   
   >   
   > On 10/17/2024 3:47 AM, NoBody wrote:   
   > > On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 08:01:14 -0700, pothead  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> On 10/16/2024 3:43 AM, NoBody wrote:   
   > >>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:29:05 -0600, John Doe    
   > >>> wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>> On 10/11/2024 8:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   > >>>>> Worried that the presidential race may be slipping away from them,   
   Democrats   
   > >>>>> now express contempt for the people whose votes they need to win in   
   November.   
   > >>>>> Especially annoying to the party?s leadership is that they have to try   
   to   
   > >>>>> persuade Pennsylvanians. On Tuesday vice presidential candidate Gov.   
   Tim Walz   
   > >>>>> (D., Minn.) lamented to wealthy California donors that their party has   
   to win   
   > >>>>> votes in Western Pennsylvania?s Beaver County, and also persuade   
   people in   
   > >>>>> York, in the eastern half of the Keystone State. To diminish the power   
   of   
   > >>>>> such voters, Mr. Walz wants to get rid of the Constitution?s Electoral   
   > >>>>> College. Now former President Barack Obama has arrived in Pittsburgh   
   to scold   
   > >>>>> some of the locals for not supporting current Vice President Kamala   
   Harris.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Mr. Obama is now employing the rhetorical tactics he once used against   
   > >>>>> congressional Republicans to attempt to shame voters into obeying his   
   > >>>>> political instruction. Mr. Obama?s oratory has always been much more   
   refined   
   > >>>>> than that of either of his presidential successors?but at least as   
   nasty. The   
   > >>>>> standard Obama approach is to assume that no one could possibly have an   
   > >>>>> informed and honest disagreement with him and therefore his opponents   
   must be   
   > >>>>> ignorant or driven by concealed base motives.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Gregory Krieg, Edward-Isaac Dovere and Eva McKend report for CNN:   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>         Former President Barack Obama on Thursday admonished Black men   
   who   
   > >>>>>         are hesitating to back Vice President Kamala Harris?   
   presidential   
   > >>>>>         campaign, telling them it?s ?not acceptable? to sit out this   
   election   
   > >>>>>         and suggesting they might be reluctant to vote for Harris   
   because she?s   
   > >>>>>         a woman.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>         The striking comments by Obama, made to a small group of   
   voters in a   
   > >>>>>         surprise stop at a local Harris campaign office in Pittsburgh,   
   were   
   > >>>>>         part of a more forceful campaign message delivered by the   
   former   
   > >>>>>         president on Thursday as polls continue to show a   
   neck-and-neck race.   
   > >>>>>         At a rally in the city later that evening, Obama issued some   
   of his   
   > >>>>>         most searing public criticisms of his successor to date.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>         The lack of energy some see around Harris? campaign, Obama   
   first told   
   > >>>>>         the smaller group, ?seems to be more pronounced with the   
   brothers.?   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Mr. Obama then launched a fact-free attack on their motivations. CNN   
   reports:   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>         ?You?re coming up with all kinds of reasons and excuses, I?ve   
   got a   
   > >>>>>         problem with that,? Obama said. ?Because part of it makes me   
   think ?   
   > >>>>>         and I?m speaking to men directly ? part of it makes me think   
   that,   
   > >>>>>         well, you just aren?t feeling the idea of having a woman as   
   president,   
   > >>>>>         and you?re coming up with other alternatives and other reasons   
   for   
   > >>>>>         that.?   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> The vice president?s significant role in creating a 40-year-high in   
   inflation   
   > >>>>> that ravaged incomes isn?t a legitimate reason to oppose her? And of   
   course   
   > >>>>> there are many other legitimate reasons to find fault with the   
   incumbent vice   
   > >>>>> president in a world in crisis. Emma Bowman at National Public Radio   
   has more   
   > >>>>> on Mr. Obama?s insults to Pennsylvanians:   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>         ?On the one hand, you have somebody who grew up like you,   
   knows you,   
   > >>>>>         went to college with you, understands the struggles and pain   
   and joy   
   > >>>>>         that comes from those experiences,? adding that Harris, who is   
   Black   
   > >>>>>         and Asian American, is focused on policy that will benefit   
   Black   
   > >>>>>         communities, such as affordable housing and health care. ?And   
   on the   
   > >>>>>         other side, you have someone who has consistently shown   
   disregard, not   
   > >>>>>         just for the communities, but for you as a person.?   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Maybe voters of all backgrounds have had just about all the   
   Biden-Harris   
   > >>>>> ?affordability? they can stand and are nostalgic about the real income   
   gains   
   > >>>>> of the Trump era.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> It?s also very possible that Pennsylvania voters of all backgrounds   
   don?t   
   > >>>>> think their communities will be well served by Ms. Harris, a San   
   Francisco   
   > >>>>> leftist who has backed seemingly every zany idea favored by those   
   California   
   > >>>>> donors, and then some.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Regardless, it?s up to the voters to decide which candidates are most   
   likely   
   > >>>>> to enable prosperity. Maybe Mr. Walz and Mr. Obama should try winning   
   over   
   > >>>>> these voters, rather than trying to reduce their electoral power or   
   tossing   
   > >>>>> them into a 2024 version of Hillary Clinton?s ?basket of deplorables.?   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> These days that basket is looking more and more like a broad,   
   multiracial   
   > >>>>> coalition.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> As for the Democrats, the country desperately needs Mr. Obama and his   
   party   
   > >>>>> to turn away from the poisonous ideological mindset which holds that   
   every   
   > >>>>> setback for their political agenda represents a failure of our form of   
   > >>>>> government or our people.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> I personally can't imagine voting for Trump's stated plan of jailing the   
   > >>>> people who have criticized him. He's no longer using statements like   
   > >>>> Nazi Germany, he's virtually quoting them now. That should disturb   
   > >>>> patriots in every party.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Citation required.   
   > >>   
   > >>     "I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some   
   very bad   
   > >>     people. We have some sick people. Radical left lunatics. I think it   
   should be   
   > >>     very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really   
   > >>     necessary, by the military, because they can?t let that happen."   
   > >>   
      
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