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   Message 185 of 348   
   John Doe to NoBody   
   Re: The Atlantic Accuses Trump Of Dispar   
   25 Oct 24 09:26:59   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.trump, alt.politics.usa   
   From: NoOne@private.corp   
      
   On 10/25/2024 5:03 AM, NoBody wrote:   
   > On Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:05:02 -0500, Ubiquitous    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> With just two weeks until Election Day, Left-leaning magazine The Atlantic   
   >> published an article on Tuesday accusing former President Donald Trump of   
   >> disparaging a slain U.S. Army private in 2020.   
   >>   
   >> The Atlantic story, which was written by editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg,   
   >> claims that Trump “became angry” when he learned how much the funeral   
   bill   
   >> was for soldier Vanessa Guillén. The deceased 20-year-old, a daughter of   
   >> Mexican immigrants, was murdered by a fellow soldier at Fort Hood in April   
   >> 2020. After her death, Trump spoke to her family at the White House and   
   >> offered to cover the cost of her funeral, Fox News reported.   
   >>   
   >> Goldberg cites “attendees” and “contemporaneous notes of the meeting   
   taken by   
   >> a participant” to report that Trump fumed when he learned how much the   
   family   
   >> billed the White House for the funeral. According to The Atlantic, Trump   
   >> responded by telling his staff, “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a   
   >> f***ing Mexican!” Goldberg then wrote that the then-president ordered his   
   >> chief of staff, Mark Meadows, not to pay the bill.   
   >>   
   >> Natalie Khawam, the Guillén family’s attorney, responded to The   
   Atlantic’s   
   >> story on X, accusing Goldberg of lying and exploiting her clients “for   
   cheap   
   >> political gain.”   
   >>   
   >> “After having dealt with hundreds of reporters in my legal career, this is   
   >> unfortunately the first time I have to go on record and call out Jeffrey   
   >> Goldberg@the Atlantic: not only did he misrepresent our conversation but he   
   >> outright LIED in HIS sensational story,” Khawam wrote. “More   
   importantly, he   
   >> used and exploited my clients, and Vanessa Guillen’s murder… for cheap   
   >> political gain.”   
   >>   
   >> “I would like to also point out that the timing of this ‘story’ is   
   quite   
   >> suspicious, as this supposed conversation that Trump had would have occurred   
   >> over 4 years ago! Why a story about it now?!” she added. “As everyone   
   knows,   
   >> not only did Trump support our military, he also invited my clients to the   
   >> Oval Office and supported the I Am Vanessa Guillen bill too.”   
   >>   
   >> Guillén’s sister, Mayra, also responded to The Atlantic piece and   
   defended   
   >> Trump, writing, “Wow. I don’t appreciate how you are exploiting my   
   sister’s   
   >> death for politics- hurtful & disrespectful to the important changes she   
   made   
   >> for service members. President Donald Trump did nothing but show respect to   
   >> my family & Vanessa. In fact, I voted for President Trump today.”   
   >>   
   >> Despite the Guillén family’s quick refutation of The Atlantic story,   
   >> Goldberg’s piece gained attention in the mainstream media with outlets,   
   such   
   >> as CBS News, covering it. Shortly after publication, however, Guillén’s   
   >> family blasted Goldberg and his “sensational story.”   
   >>   
   >>      'CBS Evening News' anchor Norah O'Donnell opened the show with The   
   >>      Atlantic story:   
   >>   
   >>      "Two weeks from Election Day, as the final battleground sprint is   
   >>      underway. Every hour matters for these candidates as they try to reach   
   >>      as many voters as possible in the key states that will…   
   >>      pic.twitter.com/ki6qjVU1QW   
   >>   
   >>      — Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) October 23, 2024   
   >>   
   >> Meadows also pushed back against The Atlantic’s claims.   
   >>   
   >> “I was in the discussions featured in the Atlantic’s latest hit piece   
   against   
   >> President Trump. Let me say this. Any suggestion that President Trump   
   >> disparaged Ms. Guillen or refused to pay for her funeral expenses is   
   >> absolutely false,” Meadows said. “He was nothing but kind, gracious, and   
   >> wanted to make sure that the military and the U.S. government did right by   
   >> Vanessa Guillen and her family.”   
   >>   
   >> Ben Williamson, who was a spokesman for Meadows when he was Trump’s chief   
   of   
   >> staff, said he told The Atlantic before the piece was published that Trump   
   >> “absolutely did not say that” regarding Guillén’s funeral bill. In   
   The   
   >> Atlantic piece, Goldberg wrote that Meadow’s spokesman “denied having   
   heard   
   >> Trump make the statement.”   
   >>   
   >>      On the left: I sent Atlantic a comment saying President Trump   
   >>      “absolutely did not say that,” referring to the alleged comments   
   >>      about Ms. Guillen they printed.   
   >>   
   >>      On the right: Atlantic translated that comment to “didn’t hear   
   Trump say   
   >>      it.”   
   >>   
   >>      Treat this dishonest piece accordingly. pic.twitter.com/pM1o1c9fEm   
   >>   
   >>      — Ben Williamson (@_WilliamsonBen) October 22, 2024   
   >>   
   >> Fox News anchor John Roberts added, “I was in the Oval Office (pool   
   >> correspondent) the day Vanessa Guillen’s family visited. The meeting was   
   >> somber, respectful, and according to Vanessa’s sister Mayra, very much   
   >> appreciated.”   
   >>   
   >> This isn’t the first article Goldberg has written based on anonymous   
   sources   
   >> accusing Trump of disparaging military members. In September 2020, just   
   weeks   
   >> before the election, Goldberg published a story that alleged Trump called   
   >> Americans who die in war “losers” and “suckers.” That piece was   
   also refuted   
   >> by Trump and numerous Trump administration officials who were present.   
   >   
   > Well the Atlantic isn't fit to wrap cat litter in so there's that.   
      
      
   Well, they are quoting decorated four-star generals who are on the   
   record and backed up by dozens of Trump insiders, so there's that.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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