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|    John Doe to Ubiquitous    |
|    Re: The Tiresome Obamas - From Martha's     |
|    29 Oct 24 10:19:16    |
      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.abortion, alt.politics.obama       XPost: alt.politics.usa       From: NoOne@private.corp              On 10/29/2024 8:21 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:       > Whatever happens on Nov. 5, one silver lining of the end of election season       > is that Americans will likely soon enjoy at least a brief respite from self-       > righteous, inaccurate and arrogant lectures from the Obama family. Recently       > former President Barack Obama jetted into Pennsylvania to insult voters who       > aren’t supporting Vice President Kamala Harris. On Saturday it was former       > First Lady Michelle Obama’s turn. In Kalamazoo, Mich., she exhibited the       > charming family habit of treating people who don’t share their politics as       > either ignorant or morally compromised.       >       > As is now Democratic custom, Mrs. Obama didn’t spend much time trying to       make       > the case that Ms. Harris has earned a promotion. What can one say? Instead       > the former first lady offered an angry harangue against Donald Trump as if       > he’s the incumbent presiding over an era of inflation and disorder. Mrs.       > Obama echoed her husband’s bizarre gripe from last week that as president       Mr.       > Trump didn’t look to Mr. Obama for guidance on dealing with pandemics. To       her       > credit Mrs. Obama seems to have learned from her husband’s mistake and so       she       > avoided presenting Canada’s liberty-crushing lockdowns as some sort of       model       > of Covid-era excellence.       >       > Much of the speech was devoted to forecasting a dark future now that voters       > rather than unelected judges are allowed to decide some social policies. As       > with any issue where the Obamas have staked out a position, no well-informed       > and sincere objections are tolerated. Even on the issue of abortion, where       > millions of Americans have a deep conviction that it’s wrong, such people       are       > simply cast as unaware of the implications of their beliefs or callous       > opponents of women in the Obamaverse of progressive discourse.       >       > Mrs. Obama’s Saturday rant included the claim that if elected again, Donald       > Trump “could take actions that effectively ban abortion nationwide.” She       said       > this even though by now she must know that Mr. Trump has repeatedly expressed       > his opposition to a nationwide abortion ban and has said that the voters in       > each state should set their own abortion policies.       >       > The absurd premise of Mrs. Obama’s remarks was that in post-Roe v. Wade       > America, where abortion policy is no longer dictated by the federal courts       > but instead left to up to the people, basic health care for women will       > essentially collapse as women are no longer able to find gynecologists.       >       > Much of the speech was presented as a lecture to the men in the audience, who       > were treated as insensitive beasts who don’t care enough or haven’t       > considered the needs of the women in their lives, and also deserve no say in       > the policies affecting them. Said Mrs. Obama in a speech excerpt published in       > the New York Times and described by Times headline writers as a “searing       > appeal to men”:       >       > I am asking you, from the core of my being, to take our lives       seriously.       > Please do not put our lives in the hands of politicians, mostly men,       > who have no clue or do not care about what we as women are going       > through, who don’t fully grasp the broad-reaching health implications       > that their misguided policies will have on our health outcomes.       >       > The only people who have standing to make these decisions are women       > with the advice of their doctors. We are the ones with the knowledge       > and experience to know what we need.       >       > So please, please do not hand our fates over to the likes of Trump,       > who knows nothing about us, who has shown a deep contempt for us.       > Because a vote for him is a vote against us, against our health,       > against our worth.       >       > To say that voting for a particular candidate in a tight election means the       > voter has chosen to vote against half the population appears to be an       > effective way to create political polarization, but why would any party want       > to celebrate such rhetoric? Here’s the closing in the Times excerpt, in       which       > Mrs. Obama once again shames men who dare to deviate from her opinion on       > abortion:       >       > Let me tell you all to think that the men that we love could be either       > unaware or indifferent to our plight is simply heartbreaking. It is a       > sad statement about our value as women in this world. It is both a       > setback in our quest for equity and a huge blow to our country’s       > standing as a world leader on issues of women’s health and gender       > equity.       >       > So fellas, before you cast your vote, ask yourselves: What side of       > history do you want to be on?       >       > Lest one think that Mrs. Obama only has contempt for men who disagree with       > her, she’s even less respectful toward women who don’t share her views on       > abortion. Perhaps because her entire argument would fall apart if she       > acknowledged their existence, she ignores them. But the truth is that       there’s       > never been a huge gender gap when it comes to abortion. Most Americans think       > that it should be legal but with restrictions, while a small minority favor a       > total ban. Gender has less to do with their views than personal beliefs.       >       > For example, the Pew Research Center finds that ideology and political       > affiliation are much more predictive of someone’s position on abortion than       > gender, where the differences are modest. Overall, Pew reports that 64% of       > women think abortion should be legal in most or all cases and so do 61% of       > men. Meanwhile 33% of women think it should be illegal in most or all cases       > and 38% of men share this view.       >       > Interestingly though, while very few Americans favor a total ban—in which       > abortion is illegal in all cases—this position tends to be slightly more       > popular among women than men. Pew reports that 9% of women favor a total ban,       > compared with just 6% of men who think abortion should always be illegal.       >       > Similarly, Gallup finds that 12% of women favor a total ban, a slightly       > higher percentage than the 11% of men who want the practice to be illegal in       > all cases.       >       > Obviously one doesn’t expect fair and balanced coverage of issues in a       > partisan political speech, but the small minority of women who favor an       > abortion ban and the even smaller minority of men who do provide a kind of       > political reality check. Even if Mrs. Obama is inclined to attack those who       > don’t share her views, she really doesn’t need to direct such vitriol at       > people who have no realistic chance of seeing their policy wishes enacted       > nationwide. And she shouldn’t be scaring men and women with outrageous       claims       > about the U.S. health care system.       >              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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