XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.abortion, alt.politics.obama   
   XPost: alt.politics.usa   
   From: skeeterweed@photonmail.com   
      
   In article <9W7UO.3212863$grz1.1165738@fx03.ams4>, NoOne@private.corp   
   says...   
   >   
   > On 10/29/2024 8:21 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   > > Whatever happens on Nov. 5, one silver lining of the end of election season   
   > > is that Americans will likely soon enjoy at least a brief respite from   
   self-   
   > > righteous, inaccurate and arrogant lectures from the Obama family. Recently   
   > > former President Barack Obama jetted into Pennsylvania to insult voters who   
   > > aren?t supporting Vice President Kamala Harris. On Saturday it was former   
   > > First Lady Michelle Obama?s turn. In Kalamazoo, Mich., she exhibited the   
   > > charming family habit of treating people who don?t share their politics as   
   > > either ignorant or morally compromised.   
   > >   
   > > As is now Democratic custom, Mrs. Obama didn?t spend much time trying to   
   make   
   > > the case that Ms. Harris has earned a promotion. What can one say? Instead   
   > > the former first lady offered an angry harangue against Donald Trump as if   
   > > he?s the incumbent presiding over an era of inflation and disorder. Mrs.   
   > > Obama echoed her husband?s bizarre gripe from last week that as president   
   Mr.   
   > > Trump didn?t look to Mr. Obama for guidance on dealing with pandemics. To   
   her   
   > > credit Mrs. Obama seems to have learned from her husband?s mistake and so   
   she   
   > > avoided presenting Canada?s liberty-crushing lockdowns as some sort of   
   model   
   > > of Covid-era excellence.   
   > >   
   > > Much of the speech was devoted to forecasting a dark future now that voters   
   > > rather than unelected judges are allowed to decide some social policies. As   
   > > with any issue where the Obamas have staked out a position, no   
   well-informed   
   > > and sincere objections are tolerated. Even on the issue of abortion, where   
   > > millions of Americans have a deep conviction that it?s wrong, such people   
   are   
   > > simply cast as unaware of the implications of their beliefs or callous   
   > > opponents of women in the Obamaverse of progressive discourse.   
   > >   
   > > Mrs. Obama?s Saturday rant included the claim that if elected again, Donald   
   > > Trump ?could take actions that effectively ban abortion nationwide.? She   
   said   
   > > this even though by now she must know that Mr. Trump has repeatedly   
   expressed   
   > > his opposition to a nationwide abortion ban and has said that the voters in   
   > > each state should set their own abortion policies.   
   > >   
   > > The absurd premise of Mrs. Obama?s remarks was that in post-Roe v. Wade   
   > > America, where abortion policy is no longer dictated by the federal courts   
   > > but instead left to up to the people, basic health care for women will   
   > > essentially collapse as women are no longer able to find gynecologists.   
   > >   
   > > Much of the speech was presented as a lecture to the men in the audience,   
   who   
   > > were treated as insensitive beasts who don?t care enough or haven?t   
   > > considered the needs of the women in their lives, and also deserve no say   
   in   
   > > the policies affecting them. Said Mrs. Obama in a speech excerpt published   
   in   
   > > the New York Times and described by Times headline writers as a ?searing   
   > > appeal to men?:   
   > >   
   > >       I am asking you, from the core of my being, to take our lives   
   seriously.   
   > >       Please do not put our lives in the hands of politicians, mostly men,   
   > >       who have no clue or do not care about what we as women are going   
   > >       through, who don?t fully grasp the broad-reaching health implications   
   > >       that their misguided policies will have on our health outcomes.   
   > >   
   > >       The only people who have standing to make these decisions are women   
   > >       with the advice of their doctors. We are the ones with the knowledge   
   > >       and experience to know what we need.   
   > >   
   > >       So please, please do not hand our fates over to the likes of Trump,   
   > >       who knows nothing about us, who has shown a deep contempt for us.   
   > >       Because a vote for him is a vote against us, against our health,   
   > >       against our worth.   
   > >   
   > > To say that voting for a particular candidate in a tight election means the   
   > > voter has chosen to vote against half the population appears to be an   
   > > effective way to create political polarization, but why would any party   
   want   
   > > to celebrate such rhetoric? Here?s the closing in the Times excerpt, in   
   which   
   > > Mrs. Obama once again shames men who dare to deviate from her opinion on   
   > > abortion:   
   > >   
   > >       Let me tell you all to think that the men that we love could be   
   either   
   > >       unaware or indifferent to our plight is simply heartbreaking. It is a   
   > >       sad statement about our value as women in this world. It is both a   
   > >       setback in our quest for equity and a huge blow to our country?s   
   > >       standing as a world leader on issues of women?s health and gender   
   > >       equity.   
   > >   
   > >       So fellas, before you cast your vote, ask yourselves: What side of   
   > >       history do you want to be on?   
   > >   
   > > Lest one think that Mrs. Obama only has contempt for men who disagree with   
   > > her, she?s even less respectful toward women who don?t share her views on   
   > > abortion. Perhaps because her entire argument would fall apart if she   
   > > acknowledged their existence, she ignores them. But the truth is that   
   there?s   
   > > never been a huge gender gap when it comes to abortion. Most Americans   
   think   
   > > that it should be legal but with restrictions, while a small minority   
   favor a   
   > > total ban. Gender has less to do with their views than personal beliefs.   
   > >   
   > > For example, the Pew Research Center finds that ideology and political   
   > > affiliation are much more predictive of someone?s position on abortion than   
   > > gender, where the differences are modest. Overall, Pew reports that 64% of   
   > > women think abortion should be legal in most or all cases and so do 61% of   
   > > men. Meanwhile 33% of women think it should be illegal in most or all cases   
   > > and 38% of men share this view.   
   > >   
   > > Interestingly though, while very few Americans favor a total ban?in which   
   > > abortion is illegal in all cases?this position tends to be slightly more   
   > > popular among women than men. Pew reports that 9% of women favor a total   
   ban,   
   > > compared with just 6% of men who think abortion should always be illegal.   
   > >   
   > > Similarly, Gallup finds that 12% of women favor a total ban, a slightly   
   > > higher percentage than the 11% of men who want the practice to be illegal   
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