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|    Re: How a Splintered Left Is Preparing f    |
|    01 Nov 24 12:21:04    |
      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.liberal       XPost: alt.politics.trump, alt.politics.usa       From: NoOne@private.corp              On 10/30/2024 7:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:       > By now America is well versed in the predictions of the political right’s       > potential response should Donald Trump lose on Nov. 5: Anxiety boils about       > another stop-the-steal effort to contest the outcome.       >       > Far less scrutinized: How might the left reckon with a Kamala Harris defeat?       > How would the Democrats handle a result that many have for months proclaimed       > is an existential threat to democracy itself?       >       > As polls narrow, some Democratic stalwarts are trying to temper the sense of       > despair and the occasionally apocalyptic forecasts sweeping through their       > party. Jim Hannon, a psychotherapist and seasoned liberal organizer in       > Massachusetts, counseled calm in an open letter last week, noting Harris’s       > campaign strength, while urging a broader perspective.       >       > “Trump could win. So, panic then? No,” he wrote. “A Trump presidency       would be       > awful but not the end of history.”       >       > Democrats have been here before. In 2016, their bewilderment at Trump’s       > victory gave way to an ersatz resistance that spawned the Women’s March       that       > drew nearly half-a-million protesters to Washington, D.C., and millions more       > to related rallies nationwide.       >       > This time would differ, many veterans of that movement agree. Trump is no       > longer an unknown entity. Moreover, the possibility of his victory,       > unimaginable to many eight years ago, is now as good as a coin toss.       >       > Resistance regroups       > Across America, more than a dozen progressives in various positions of       > influence told The Wall Street Journal that they are dreading the prospect of       > Trump’s return to power, and dismayed that half the country might see a       > completely different reality than they see. Some are bracing for unrest. On a       > recent evening, more than 200 people joined a Zoom meeting titled Mass       > Training For Women’s Safety Teams—hosted by a Women’s March veteran       who noted       > its timing amid “escalating political violence.”       >       > Others are channeling their nervousness into action: They are planning to       > attend Women’s Marches scheduled in Washington and beyond on the Saturday       > before the election. In Boston, they are joining pill-packing parties, where       > volunteers fill boxes with abortion kits to mail to women in red states with       > strict limits. “We feel like we’re doing something,” said Erin Gately,       a 47-       > year-old physician assistant who last time took to the streets to protest       > after Trump’s election, but says this time she would focus on tangible       > actions like protecting reproductive rights.       >       > Danielle Deiseroth, 28, the executive director of Data for Progress, a       > liberal research group, said she has been talking with leaders of other       > progressive nonprofits about how to push back if Trump is elected and       > fulfills his promise to exact revenge on his political enemies, including by       > weaponizing arms of the federal government.       >       > She anticipates progressives will look to Democratic governors as political       > torchbearers and Democratic attorneys general to contest Trump initiatives,       > similar to how their Republican counterparts have challenged the Biden       > administration.       >       > Laurie Woodward García, a South Florida activist, founded People Power       United       > during Trump’s presidency to champion progressive causes, and, in her       words,       > “stand up to fascism.” Her biweekly online seminars, some scheduled for       after       > the election, explore the consequences if a President Trump were to enact       > Project 2025, a conservative policy agenda he has distanced himself from.       > Each session has drawn about 500 viewers.       >       > “We’ve got to be optimistic and fight like hell,” she said.       >       > That might be complicated by the uncertain trajectory of the Democratic       > Party, which would be at a generational inflection point with Barack Obama,       > the Clintons and President Biden all off the stage and no clear heir apparent       > should Vice President Harris lose.       >       > “We’ll be in rebuilding mode,” said state Rep. Gilda Cobb-Hunter of       > Orangeburg, S.C., the rare Black female progressive legislator in a deep red       > state.       >       > Finding a way forward       >       > Already, the resistance movement born of Trump’s 2016 victory has       splintered,       > with clashes between hard-edge progressives and moderates driving out some       > key leaders.       >       > In January 2017, Vanessa Wruble, then living in Brooklyn, was a prime mover       > in the Women’s March held the day after Trump’s inauguration as a way to       > register profound opposition to his administration.       >       > This time, Wruble expects to stay home with her assortment of dogs, emus,       > pigs, peacocks and other rescue animals in the California desert if he is       > inaugurated again. Now 50, she is off the mainstream political grid and       > living on a ranch-turned-animal sanctuary at the edge of Joshua Tree National       > Park.       >       > “Do I think it will be a f—ing nightmare if Trump gets elected?       Absolutely,”       > she said.       >       > But in the intervening years, Wruble has been ground down by disputes with       > former Women’s March comrades, a pandemic and her own uneasiness with a       > younger generation of progressive activists. She also confesses uncertainty       > over the central task: how to confront Trump and Trumpism? Marching seems       > milquetoast, she said.       >       > “I wish I could say, ‘Oh, we can join together and do this, that and the       > other thing.’ But I think the problem is we don’t know how to be       effective,”       > Wruble said.       >       > Rachel O’Leary Carmona, executive director of Women’s March,       acknowledged the       > organization had suffered typical early growing pains, including internal       > conflicts, but said Women’s Marches remain the “biggest on-ramp to the       > movement on the left.”       >       > To Jeremy Varon, a professor at the New School in New York City who has       > written extensively about political violence and extremist groups such as the       > Weather Underground, the paucity of concrete options to confront Trump       > reflects a longstanding weakness on the American Left.       >       > “You can put as many millions of people in the street saying ‘We’re       upset!’       > but that doesn’t change the institutional reality,” he said.       >       > ‘Stay here’ and cope       >       > Six months ago, Melissa Fiero, a lonely Democratic activist living in a deep       > red corner of Appalachia, began peeling the political stickers off her truck       > in hopes of sparing it from further abuse by vandals, who had already keyed       > it and bashed the tailgate.       >       > She and her husband also stopped leaving their dogs outside unattended after       > receiving death threats that she chalked up to having a Biden sign in the              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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