XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.elections, alt.politics.democrats   
   XPost: alt.politics.usa   
   From: yak@inbox.com   
      
   On 8/16/2024 3:36 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   > On 8/16/2024 12:12 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >> On 8/16/2024 12:08 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >>> On 8/16/2024 12:00 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>>> On 8/16/2024 9:46 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >>>>> On 8/16/2024 8:29 AM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 8/16/2024 8:19 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 8/16/2024 5:34 AM, Gak, fucked up the ass by priests hundreds   
   >>>>>>> of times — and *admits* it — lied:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 8/15/2024 9:20 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 8/15/2024 7:25 AM, Gak, fucked up the ass by priests   
   >>>>>>>>> hundreds of times — and *admits* it — lied:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 8/15/2024 12:42 AM, Gronk wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Ubiquitous wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Kamala Harris got enough delegate votes   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Friday in the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> virtual roll call process to become the official Democratic   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> nominee.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Biden dropped out and Harris stepped up. Your problem?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> But...but...but...democracy!!!!   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Biden dropping out is fully consistent with a democracy.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Biden's dropping out is; Harris' coronation less so. A   
   >>>>>>>> fundamental hallmark of 'democracy' is the will of the people to   
   >>>>>>>> select their candidate.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> We don't take lectures from fascists about "fundamental hallmarks   
   >>>>>>> of democracy," especially when they put quotes of derision around   
   >>>>>>> "democracy," and especially when said fascists oppose democracy   
   >>>>>>> in every form.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> There is nothing "anti-democratic" about the way Harris has been   
   >>>>>>> chosen. Primary elections and caucuses were held, and the   
   >>>>>>> candidate who won a majority of delegates dropped out, meaning it   
   >>>>>>> is an open convention. The same thing happened in 1968. In 1968,   
   >>>>>>> the eventual nominee, Humphrey, had a minority of the committed   
   >>>>>>> delegates, but he ultimately was nominated by the convention.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> 1968 was not the same as 2024. HHH chose not to run in most of the   
   >>>>>> primaries, with almost all of the votes being split between   
   >>>>>> McCarthy and RFK. Even if RFK had not been assassinated, HHH could   
   >>>>>> have won because most of the delegates were not chosen in the   
   >>>>>> primaries. That's a big difference.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The point is Humphrey had a minority of committed delegates as of   
   >>>>> the night of RFK's assassination. That means he got delegates that   
   >>>>> he did not win in primary elections.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> HHH had a plurality of the delegates when RFK was assassinated.   
   >>>   
   >>> He still had 90 fewer than the combined total of RFK and McCarthy,   
   >>> and a candidate needed to get a majority, which he didn't have. It   
   >>> was, for all intents and purposes, an open convention.   
   >>   
   >> Correct. That is, it wasn't like 2024 prior to RFK's assassination.   
   >> 1968 is not a good comparison to 2024.   
   >   
   > They are alike in the sense that the ultimate nominee did not win enough   
   > delegates in primaries to become the nominee. Republiscums/QAnon are   
   > crying that if the nominee didn't win primaries, the nomination is   
   > somehow "illegitimate." It is not.   
   >   
      
   Ball, stop arguing with Rosenbluth. You can't match his intellect.   
      
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