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|    Fact-check: The 5 LIES circulating about    |
|    22 Oct 25 21:05:05    |
      [continued from previous message]              You know, Joy Reid is a complete idiot. Wasn't Sheila Jackson Lee, those two       follow the same category? You're right. Michelle Obama, I would not call an       idiot.              Again, criticizing four members of a group does not mean you're criticizing       the group.              GLENN: And he was criticizing people he thought were unqualified to make       statements of -- of any intelligence on whatever topic it was that he was       talking about.              And what they did, is they said, he thinks that all black women are just       dumb.              I mean, that is so incredibly dishonest.              Charlie Kirk said, gun deaths are worth it to keep the Second Amendment.              STU: This is one I heard a lot.              This is one that a lot of people on the left are using as justification for       their celebration.              He said, you know, well, you just have to deal with the deaths if you want to       have a Second Amendment.              And, you know, I don't know if you have the context --              GLENN: I have it -- I have his answer right here.              You ready? You will never live in a society where you have an armed       citizenry. And you won't have a single gun death.              That's nonsense.              It's drivel.              But I am -- I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of       unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year.              So you can have the Second Amendment right to protect your other God-given       rights.              It's a prudent deal. It is rational to think that way.              STU: I mean, and obviously -- every time -- if you have a free society, you       take risks with it.              There will always be people. Horrible, horrible human beings that all seem to       donate to Democrat causes, that will do things, like we saw one week ago       today.              GLENN: Yeah.              STU: And that is -- you know, I -- again, you can't speak for Charlie Kirk.              He spoke for himself so eloquently.              But he -- even what occurred last week, would not change his mind on that.              Even -- now that something terrible has happened to me and my family, we       should overturn the Second Amendment. And people shouldn't have the right to       defend themselves.              You know that's how he would feel about it. And this is, if anything,       pointing to his incredible consistency on the rights that we have, in this       country. You know, it is a sad -- sad, unfortunate fact about so many things.              Sad, unfortunate fact about automobile travel.              That you do have to deal with some automobile accidents.              When you have highways where you can drive 55, 65, 75 miles an hour, we all       understand that to be true.              GLENN: It's unreasonable to think that you can live in a society with       automobiles, and not have some automobile accidents.              STU: It's absolutely true.              GLENN: It's exactly what he said about guns.              STU: And, frankly, the other thing that is important to understand, if you       did eliminate all guns, you would not eliminate all murders.              GLENN: No. They did in England.              STU: Oh, they did. We're all set?              GLENN: There's no murder there.              STU: No violent crimes there.              I keep reading about them. Is that all false?              GLENN: Yeah. That's Donald Trump. You know what I mean?              STU: Yeah.              GLENN: And he's -- last one, Charlie used an Asian slur. Now, I'm not going       to use the slur, obviously. I'm just going to say, it's what happens       sometimes with armor. There's a very famous saying with armor, that has       nothing to do with the Chinese or Asian at all. But I'm not even going to put       those together in this context now, you you'll have to figure it out.              The thing is going around, he used that slur to yell at an Asian woman in the       audience.              Now, again, what kind of monster -- or how --              STU: You should know on its face, that's false. You should know that's false.              GLENN: Yeah. How stupid would Charlie Kirk have to be, okay?              So, you know, there's nothing. There's nothing like that. Well, I'm sorry.              He was screaming something at a woman when they were talking about       capitalism, and he was yelling, Cenk, not the other word. Okay? And who is       that? From the Young Turks --              STU: The guys from the Young Turks.              GLENN: That's what he was saying.              STU: Oh, gosh, that's just so bad. You know, the other one was the Stephen       King situation, where he quoted some horrible thing that Charlie Kirk said.              And, again, he knitted eventually, that -- that it was false.              But it was -- it was -- he was quoting someone else, in an incident, and       critiquing that position.              GLENN: Yes. Yes. Yes.              STU: Which was a bad position. But he was bringing it up to quote him and       critique him, which is a very standard thing they did on the left. This is a       standard tactic of Media Matters when you're quoting someone else or saying       something.              They'll act as if I say it.              GLENN: You repeat a lie often enough, and the public will remember it. Glenn       Beck is quoting Hitler. Glenn Beck loves Hitler.              STU: Uh-huh.              GLENN: Yeah. Hitler said that, but that's not what I was saying. That had       nothing to do with the conversation, for the love of Pete.              STU: Yeah, again, if you had something against Charlie Kirk, you wouldn't       need to go to this stuff. If our opinion of Kirk, which was a guy who worked       hard to debate people.              Who tried to practice politics and civic life the right way. Who tried to be       a shining light for his faith, which was vitally important to him and his       family. If that vision of Charlie Kirk was false, you wouldn't need to go to       these things.              GLENN: No.              STU: You could come up with 50 different things he said that were really       offensive. Instead, what you come up with are lies. Because that's what       you're in the business of.              GLENN: Yeah. And there is a problem.              The -- we now know. And we'll have more on this later today. On the Charlie       Kirk show.              And then on tomorrow.              But we now know that the Chinese and Russia are involved with disinformation       campaigns.              Based on Charlie Kirk, trying to get us to push us into Civil War. And we       know it for a fact now.              So just be very careful what you read online.              And don't necessarily repeat everything that you see.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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