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   On 8/21/2024 7:05 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:   
   > President Joe Biden repeated the debunked lie on Monday night at the   
   > DNC that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump said there were   
   > “very fine people on both sides” of an extremist rally in   
   > Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017.   
   >   
   > “I ran for president in 2020 because of what I saw in Charlottesville   
   > in August of 2017,” Biden said. “Extremists coming out of the woods   
   > carrying torches, their veins bulging from their necks, carrying Nazi   
   > swastikas and chanting the same exact antisemitic bile that was heard   
   > in Germany in the early ’30s.”   
   >   
   > “When the president was asked what he thought had happened, Donald   
   > Trump said, and I quote, ‘There are very fine people on both sides.’ My   
   > God, that’s what he said. That is what he said and what he meant,”   
   > Biden continued. “That’s when I realized … I could not stay on the   
   > sidelines. So I ran.”   
   >   
   > Biden has made this debunked claim before when he said that Trump   
   > referred to neo-Nazis and white supremacists at the protest as “very   
   > fine people.”   
   >   
   > WATCH:   
   >   
   > 	“Donald Trump said…’There are very fine people on both sides.’   
   > 	That is what he said and what he meant.”   
   >   
   > 	Fact check: not true. pic.twitter.com/O8Kr561cqg   
   >   
   > 	— Daily Wire (@realDailyWire) August 20, 2024   
   >   
   > However, that is not what the former president said at the press   
   > conference where he made the remarks on August 15, 2017, following the   
   > violence that broke out at the protest.   
   >   
   > “And you had people, and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the   
   > white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally,” Trump   
   > said. “But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and   
   > white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely   
   > unfairly.”   
   >   
   > “Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also   
   > had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and   
   > with the helmets and with the baseball bats,” he continued. “You had a   
   > lot of bad people in the other group too.”   
   >   
   > 	Biden just repeated the “very fine people” smear against Trump   
   >   
   > 	Trump condemned the racists at the Charlottesville protest:   
   > 	“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white   
   > 	nationalists, because they should be condemned   
   > 	totally”pic.twitter.com/AejOrmJVMO   
   >   
   > 	— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) August 20, 2024   
   >   
   > [Ironically enough, DoJ-certified imbecile Resident Joke Biden   
   >   said the same thing about the antisemitic Palestinian protesters   
   >   outside the convention!]   
   >   
   > --   
   > Let's go Brandon!   
   >   
      
   This is an aspect of Trump that his most devoted followers often miss.   
   He always gives mixed messages and talks out of both sides of his mouth.   
   He'll say "fight like hell" at one point and say "peaceful" at another,   
   This allows the faithful to hear what they want to hear. The J6 crowd   
   heard the "fight like hell" and the apologists heard "peaceful."   
      
   Trump did in fact say the title phrase and he did in fact deliberately   
   pass up several opportunities to unequivocally disavow Nazis. But he   
   also said something against Nazis at another point,   
      
   So that quote was NEVER debunked because it actually happened and is on   
   tape.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)