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   Message 90 of 348   
   John Doe to Governor Swill   
   Re: ABC News moderator of September deba   
   24 Aug 24 08:24:12   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.media, alt.politics.trump   
   XPost: alt.politics.usa   
   From: NoOne@private.corp   
      
   On 8/23/2024 10:20 PM, Governor Swill wrote:   
   > On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:55:01 -0600, John Doe  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 8/23/2024 12:03 PM, Governor Swill wrote:   
   >>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 08:49:44 -0600, John Doe  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Exactly. God save us from the partisans who think their party is pure   
   >>>> good and the other party is pure evil. The vast majority of people in   
   >>>> both parties are patriots. And working together to get things done is   
   >>>> not weakness.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In my view, the biggest obstacle to unity is that we have some   
   >>>> for-profit news organizations who are dividing the country for profit   
   >>>> and to benefit the ultra-rich. Their damage would be limited if more   
   >>>> people consumed a variety of news sources and thought critically about   
   >>>> what they are being told.   
   >>>   
   >>> It's because Reagan abolished the Fairness Doctrine.  Under that rule,   
   media was   
   >>> required to provide equal time to both sides of any political discussion.   
   >>>   
   >>> This situation made the media self fact checking because if Joe said the   
   sky was   
   >>> green, John was sitting in the next chair over to argue the point.   
   >>>   
   >>> As a result, media tended to be very, very careful to get their facts   
   straight   
   >>> or to issue disclaimers when there was doubt.  Also, opinion was clearly   
   labeled   
   >>> as such and kept very separated from the actual news desk.   
   >>>   
   >>> When the FD went away, news became a free for all. Basically, it was legal   
   for   
   >>> anybody to say anything without the slightest fear of contradiction.  The   
   power   
   >>> grab in Washington led to distortion and omission of facts and finally to   
   >>> outright lies.  That's how Fox made their money.  They figured out what   
   lies   
   >>> folks wanted to hear, and then told them.   
   >>>   
   >>> Reinstating the Fairness doctrine would bring to an end this habit   
   extremists   
   >>> have of lying.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> I hadn't thought about that recently, but you're right. Restoring it   
   >> would be a great step.   
   >>   
   >> The media with the biggest history of lying would likely be the biggest   
   >> objector, but truth should outweigh profits.   
   >   
   > Since we're on the topic of bias, so to speak, I ran into a heavily biased   
   > survey as a popunder in my browser recently.   
   >   
   > At what point does the bias of this survey become apparent to you?   
   >   
   > 1. Do you agree or disagree with this statement?—We should continue to   
   elect our   
   > president through the Electoral College as devised by the Framers of our   
   > Constitution.   
   >   
   >   ---Strongly Agree   
   >   
   > ---Agree   
   >   
   > ---Disagree   
   >   
   > ---Strongly Disagree   
   >   
   > ---Not Sure / No Opinion   
   >   
   > 2. Do you believe that young Americans receive a proper education in American   
   > civics, including how the Constitution works and its importance to liberty?   
   >   
   > ---Yes   
   >   
   > ---No   
   >   
   > ---Not Sure / No Opinion   
   >   
   > 3. Do you think that most Americans understand how the Electoral College   
   works   
   > and its role in preserving free and representative government?   
   >   
   > ---Yes   
   >   
   > ---No   
   >   
   > ---Not Sure / No Opinion   
   >   
   > 4. Do you think eliminating the Electoral College will disenfranchise   
   citizens   
   > in large parts of the U.S. and increase the intense partisanship already   
   > dividing our nation?   
   >   
   > ---Yes   
   >   
   > ---No   
   >   
   > ---Not Sure / No Opinion   
   >   
   > 5. Do you agree or disagree with this statement?—The Electoral College   
   requires   
   > candidates and parties to form broad coalitions that represent the interests   
   of   
   > many Americans rather than just those of particular regions or urban areas.   
   >   
   > ---Strongly Agree   
   >   
   > ---Agree   
   >   
   > ---Disagree   
   >   
   > ---Strongly Disagree   
   >   
   > ---Not Sure / No Opinion   
   >   
   > 6. Do you think the ongoing effort to do away with the Electoral College by   
   > “progressive” politicians, academics, and the mainstream media is   
   politically   
   > motivated?—motivated, in other words, by a desire to give an advantage to   
   one   
   > political party over another?   
   >   
   > ---Yes   
   >   
   > ---No   
   >   
   > ---Not Sure / No Opinion   
   >   
   > 7. Are you aware that lawmakers in Washington, D.C. have introduced   
   legislation   
   > to abolish the Electoral College and that more than a dozen states and the   
   > District of Columbia have already voted to do away with the Electoral   
   College as   
   > devised by the Framers of our Constitution?   
   >   
   > ---Yes   
   >   
   > ---No   
   >   
   > ---Not Sure / No Opinion   
   >   
   > 8. Why do you think the movement to do away with the Electoral College is as   
   > successful as it is?   
   > (Check ALL that apply.)   
   >   
   > ---American civics education—education in American history and   
   government—has   
   > been neglected in our K-12 schools and colleges.   
   >   
   > ---Too many Americans are so overcome with partisanship that they forget how   
   the   
   > Electoral College works to unify the country and ensure a government that is   
   > representative of all regions and interests.   
   >   
   > ---Left-wing domination of the media, as shown by The New York Times’   
   “1619   
   > Project,” undermines informed patriotism by promoting a biased distortion   
   of our   
   > nation’s history and our Constitution.   
   >   
   > ---Not Sure / No Opinion   
   >   
   > 9. Hillsdale promotes informed patriotism by educating increasing millions of   
   > Americans about our nation’s great heritage of liberty. Which of   
   Hillsdale’s   
   > educational outreach efforts do you consider most effective at educating for   
   > liberty? (Check ALL that apply.)   
   >   
   > ---Imprimis, Hillsdale’s digest of liberty, reaching over six million   
   households   
   > and businesses free of charge, ten times each year .   
   >   
   > ---Hillsdale’s free online courses on topics including the Constitution,   
   > American history, and free-market economics, in which more than four million   
   > Americans have enrolled.   
   >   
   > ---Hillsdale’s social media outreach, which reaches hundreds of thousands   
   of   
   > young people each month, with videos and articles on the Constitution and its   
   > underlying principles of liberty.   
   >   
   > ---Hillsdale’s project to send pocket-size copies of the Declaration of   
   > Independence and the Constitution to millions of citizens and K-12 schools   
   > across America.Hillsdale’s work to launch and provide ongoing guidance to   
   > classical K-12 schools nationwide.   
   >   
   >   
   > "Over the past 48 hours, Ukrainian forces savaged the two Russian pontoon   
   > bridges over the Seym River in Kursk Oblast.  Seen here, a Ukrainian HIMARS   
   > drops several M30 GMLRS cluster munition rockets on Russian engineers   
   attempting   
   > to deploy one of the pontoon bridges."   
   >    
   > --   
   > #NEVERtrump   
      
   I'd say question 1 gives us a hint. Question 2 is neutral. Question 3   
   clinches it as a push poll.   
      
   And you're right. Misinformation and disinformation are coming at people   
   with multiple firehoses.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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