From: ningynongy@nob.nob
"Gavin" wrote in message
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> - The cast are too old. They've all filled out, the way middle-aged
> men do. One is a mechanoid whose increased girth can't be explained.
> One *died* when he was slim and 30. One is supposed to be 25-30. One
> is supposed to think he's the most attractive entity in the universe,
> which becomes a weirder delusion with each year DJJ ages. And one is a
> computerised face who has no reason to age at all.
I suppose it could be explained that holograms and computer faces are
programmed to age so as not to upset their colleagues, especially on a long
tour of duty.
> - It's been 9 years since the last series. The show is officially part
> of the past.
That doesn't stop Hollywood regularly exhuming TV shows a lot older than Red
Dwarf, and a lot more obscure. Something like The Brady Bunch was so
obviously a product of its time that the only way they could make it work
(without setting it in the 70s like the Starsky and Hutch movie) was to be
clever about it and make it about a 90s family who behaved like a 70s family
(or more accurately a 70s TV family). Or a film of Bewitched becoming a
film about a real witch who gets the part of the witch in a Hollywood
revival of Bewitched.
They made a film of The Honeymooners a few years ago. It tanked like a
really big tanky thing.
> - Sci-fi comedy so rarely works. Unique factors that made it work in
> 1987 cannot be replicated.
Yes. I think the unique factors that made it work were [a] the writing and
[b] the casting, and it got better as it went on (up to 5/6) since the
casting informed the writing. With half the writing team gone elsewhere
(novels) and the S7/8 additional writers working on generic sitcom stuff
like My Family (a show on which Lindsay and Wanamaker have occasionally
refused point blank to do some episodes because the scripts were so poor),
the only constant you've got is Doug. And no, the magic ain't there; and
you can't blame the other writers for the duff bits because several episodes
are Doug solo. It's very sad.
> Who would *want* a film or new series now? We would only watch it to
> see how much of a disaster it turns out to be. Nevertheless, I have
> ideas for a Red Dwarf movie. I wouldn't bother writing a script
> treatment or anything -- I'm lazy, and what would be the point? But I
> have an idea based around that unfinished series 7 episode about the
> Cat having to find a mate. The themes of the film would be about
> growing old and useless, and overcoming feelings of inadequacy to win
> your potential partner, by contrasting the ungraceful aging Cat with
> his potential mate (how about a sexy Thandie Newton, hmm?), and how it
> parallels Lister and Kochanski. Basically what that series 7 script
> was probably trying to do, if it hadn't been, you know, series 7.
There is indeed still room for Dwarf material but I suspect it can never get
anywhere other than fan fiction now. You could write a script and it might
be great but you can't sell it because you don't own the rights - GNP does
even if they're not doing anything with them, and you can't sell it to GNP
because they've already got their own script.
> But anyway. We'd sooner see Red Dwarf the Next Generation: The
> Adventures of Jim & Bexley, or Celebrity Fit Club with Captain
> Hollister.
I don't want to see anything with the word Celebrity in the title unless its
Celebrities Firing Howitzers At Each Other In A Lavatory Cubicle or
Celebrities Nailing Their Goolies To A Coffee Table And Setting The Building
On Fire.
--
Hercule Platini
"Celebrity Nosepicking."
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
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