From: john.santos@post.harvard.edu   
      
   In article <3oAgj.543$421.290@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, efor6920   
   @bigpond.net.au says...   
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   > "Col"  wrote in message   
   > news:47504e22$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...   
   > >   
   > > "Charles Daniels"  wrote in message   
   > > news:474ff8d3$0$90965$d368eab@news.calweb.com...   
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   > > What a boring lot we are though.   
   > > At the first hint of an argument post parties swiftly apologise for   
   > > any misunderstanding!   
   > > In the old days I would have come home from work to find a   
   > > massive thread with the UK and US posters all knocking lumps   
   > > out of each other :)   
   > > --   
   > > Col   
   > >   
   > > That's your excuse for everything isn't it, being dead!   
   >   
   > To approach this from another angle, we've all grown up enough to realise   
   > that all countries have their aspects of greatness and they also all to some   
   > extent suck, and to a greater or lesser extent it applies just as much to   
   > our own homeland just as much as anyone elses. similarly we have grown up   
   > enough to realise that "my country is perfect" is not a patriotic statement   
   > but a delusional one.   
      
   Maybe so, but my zeroxxxxone-G football time is.  (My sister named her   
   husband "Tom" and her dog "Brady"...)   
      
                       for one do not regret the evolution of this group   
   > into one where issues, and disagreements over them, are tending to be   
   > discussed on a mature and rational basis, I dont doubt that if a true yobo   
   > (roughly equivalent ausie term for prat(english) or doofus (american)) were   
   > to rear its head in the group our flaming skills will still prove adequate   
   > to the task.   
   >   
   > cheers   
   > Fozzi   
      
   Ironically, the origin of the "my country right or wrong" mantra of the   
   yobos, prats and doofuses (or ditto-heads) meant almost exactly the   
   opposite of what they think it means.  It was part of a toast, and   
   continued on saying "If it's right, may it continue doing right, and   
   when it's wrong, may it correct itself."  The whole concept of "if it   
   hurts, don't do it" is beyond these people.   
      
   Trying desperately to bring this on-topic, maybe that's why prats have   
   such difficulty passing the astrogation exam?  They don't understand   
   mid-course correction maneuvers?   
      
      
   --   
   John   
      
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