From: duckman@gfy.slf   
      
   Reaper G wrote:   
      
   >>>>>Reaper "Looking forward to his kids becoming born again" G   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Ooooooh, a pretentious moniker! We are so impressed.   
   >>>   
   >>>Nah, just savoring the irony, much like what happened to Madalyn Murray   
   >>>O'Hair and the aforementioned Reverend Phelps.   
   >>   
   >>There is irony in people being murdered for money? I don't understand...   
   >   
   > No surprise. But I'm a nice guy, so I'll make it easier for you:   
   > Madalyn Murray O'Hair, who had a bug up her ass over religion much like   
   > you, had a born-again son.   
      
   Ahhh, jeeze, see what happens when you rape your own language like that? If   
   you were trying to convey the convoluted idea of an irony of *my* children   
   becoming religious nutcases, then your moniker should have read "Looking   
   forward to your kids becoming born again". Introducing a third person   
   possessive pronoun at this point of discussion makes no sense if you're   
   trying to refer to me.   
      
   > Fred Phelps, the "God Hates Fags" guy, has   
   > two gay sons. Ergo, I'm looking forward to meeting you offspring as he   
   > or she is circulating "The Watchtower" from door to door.   
      
   This is silly, at best. You take two isolated cases and out of these you   
   formulate a rule?   
      
   >>>>But, hey, if your kids have to fall out of a cunt for a second time to   
   >>>>become normal human beings, I'm all for it. Tell your sister to push hard.   
   >>>   
   >>>And that's why we're still a religious country. Thank you and good   
   >>>night.   
   >>   
   >>And so are Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, United   
   >>Arab Emirates, Libya, Somalia, Indonesia, Yemen, Bahrain, Brunei, Syria,   
   >>Sudan and Bangladesh. Nice company. Good night, indeed.   
   >   
   > And the alternative? The U.S.S.R., the People's Republic of China,   
   > Cambodia, Cuba, etc.   
      
   Why is this the alternative? Ever heard of secular countries like Sweden,   
   Holland, Czech Republic, Denmark, Iceland, etc?   
   All these countries you mention are quasi-religious anyway - they simply   
   replaced a theistic religion with a form of communism which is a de facto,   
   if not de iure, religion. If you lived in a communist country for 25 years,   
   like I did, you'd know that.   
      
   >>>Reaper "Likes nice, normal atheists, doesn't like wacko God-haters" G   
   >>   
   >>It's difficult to hate someone's figment of imagination. I personally don't   
   >>give a flying fuck what you and your ilk practice in your houses and   
   >>churches, but when you impose your religious horseshit "morals" on the rest   
   >>of us, that's where I draw the line. There is little difference between a   
   >>good chunk of you fucking Christers in the US and the Mohammed worshipping   
   >>one-way airplane flying assholes. Only the methods are different - your   
   >>goals are the same. Fuck all of you.   
   >   
   >   
   > For what it's worth, I haven't been to church services in over 20   
   > years, and I hardly ever open the Bible. I just respect people who lead   
   > good lives, and a lot of those people happen to believe in a higher   
   > power.   
      
   And a lot of them don't. Yet, strangely enough, a lot of those who do   
   "believe in a higher power" feel compelled to tell all of us how we're   
   supposed to live our lives, who/when/how we're allowed to fuck, what we're   
   allowed to smoke/drink/eat/inject, what parts of a human body we're allowed   
   to watch on TV,  they even go as far as deciding when and how a person can   
   end his fucking life! They cry rivers of tears over a bunch of goddamn stem   
   cells, but gladly send people to die so that the majority holders of Shell,   
   BP, Exxon and Conoco can secure corporate profits.   
      
   > Are there obnoxious screwheads to give religion a bad name?   
   > Absolutely. So why on earth would you want to sound just like them?   
      
   Because it's a virtual reality and in it I get to be a confrontational   
   borderline sociopath?   
   Because I am way beyond sick and tired watching the conservative gang of   
   incompetent, hypocritical, thieving, lying, divisive, ultra-religious,   
   proto-fascist assholes turn the US into a carbon copy of one of those   
   countries they're "bringing freedom" to?   
   Because I just don't want to have *any* religion shoved down my throat?   
   Because I spent over half of my life in a totalitarian regime that practiced   
   imprisonment without trials, torture, secretive government,   
   non-constitutional procedures, human rights abuses, spying on its citizens,   
   organized state quasi-religion, militarization of the country, suppressing   
   freedom of expression, etc, and I don't need to spend another half going   
   through the same bullshit?   
      
   Pick a reason.   
      
      
      
      
      
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   Come down off the cross   
   We can use the wood   
      
   Tom Waits, Come On Up To The House   
      
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