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"Semper LibčrŽ ." <.nopolicestates????!?~Hj77@freedom4all.org> wrote in
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> "Chom Noamsky" wrote in message
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>> "Semper LibčrŽ ." <.nopolicestates????!?~Hj77@freedom4all.org> wrote in
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>> > "Chom Noamsky" wrote in message
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>> >> "Eric Gisin" wrote in message:
>> >> > [life imitates really bad art for a change]
>> >>
>> >> A clear case of habitat encroachment. What would you do if you were a
>> >> grizzly bear foraging about and a walking kabob just happened by? Too
>> >> bad
>> >> the guy didn't see it coming, if he'd had a can of pepper spray he
> could
>> >> have defended himself. Pepper spray is a lot more effective than a
>> > firearm.
>> >> The bear would also have been made more wary of humans in the future.
>> >
>> > Have you ever seen bear spray used against an angry female grizzly? You
>> > have
>> > to be within six feet of the bear, which is a rather intimidating range
> to
>> > be in, especially if its in a full gallop, or you happen to be down
> wind..
>> > you might just end up pissing it off even more. Better hope you
> remembered
>> > to shake it, and remove the safety too... oh, and don't slip on that
> rock
>> > as
>> > you instinctive back away, either...
>> >
>> > If you want to trust a can of seasoning to protect yourself, go right
>> > ahead... more power to ya... But i'll stick with a firearm thanks...
>> > Usually
>> > the thunderous bang will send most of them packing, but if not, at
>> > least
>> > you
>> > can deal with the threat at a safe range.
>> >
>> > Of course the government seems to be of the opinion that defending
>> > yourself
>> > lawfully, regardless of your opponent, is something illegal. Which is
> the
>> > height of stupidity, of course.
>>
>> I can tell you and "Half-Baked" have never actually worked in bear
>> country
>> nor have you had any experince with bears.
>>
>> A couple of "urban gentleman firearm dandies" you are.
>
> Nice theory, but wrong.. I once came within 30 feet of a black bear, and
> after we first got over the shock of seeing each other, we parted on good
> terms. You'd be surprised how fast you can get a gun out of its holster in
> times like that. Besides, it still comes down to a personal choice... so
> i'm
> not going to legislate away your right to carry a can of seasoning if that
> is your weapon of choice.
>
> I personally have yet to meet any conservation officer that would exchange
> his gun for a can of pepper, but if that is what they want, they should be
> free to go for it - its their skin after all.
>
> Perhaps you should re-read some of that material you posted in this thread
> before you get too entrenched in your choice of weapon....
>
>
> For example, a USGS employee in Alaska surprised a
> bear a number of years ago and the brand of bear pepper spray she
> dispensed
> into the bear's face apparently "failed" to halt the attack. She received
> injuries after the bear charged through the spray cloud and assaulted her.
>
> "In the other failure the bear did not leave the immediate vicinity of the
> hiker (it was only 15 feet away) when sprayed directly into its face.
> Consequently this well-armed hiker fired a bullet over the bear's head,
> apparently providing enough reasons then for the bear to turn and leave."
>
> Also, the graph shown for encounters with bears, armed versus unarmed lean
> in favor of being armed: You're more than twice as likely to be slightly
> injured, more than twice as likely to be severely injured and more likely
> to
> be killed if you are unarmed.
"Despite persistent doubts among hikers and campers venturing into bear
country, you're better off with an eight-ounce can of bear spray than a gun,
according to an analysis of 20 years of data.
Canadian and U.S. researchers announced Wednesday that they found the spray
stopped aggressive bear behaviour in 92 per cent of the cases, whether that
behaviour was an attack or merely rummaging for food. Guns were effective
about 67 per cent of the time."
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/03/26/bearspray.html
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